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NA 12th Sep 2002 15:31

qatar airways flight safety office
 
gent,s

after coming from my leave , my family told me that the flight safety office made a phone call , any body have an idea on what could be the reason?:(

nightbird 13th Sep 2002 06:18

Did you remeber to switch off the taxi lights before going on vacation?
just kiddin!
They probably want you to fill out some new CRM questionaire.
So why dont you just call the up and find out.
Happy Landings.;)

doha 14th Sep 2002 21:56

Re: qatar airways flight safety office
 
can u please write some thing useful or dont..
we are not in k ..........n .grow up

4HolerPoler 15th Sep 2002 13:25

Get a life doha. Welcome to the real world, where freedom of speech is a basic right.

There's lots of trivia posted on these forums; get to live with it. To come on this site and then within your first few posts to start whinging about the content of others postings is not acceptable.

Chill out.

4HP

digna 15th Sep 2002 20:44

may be they want to be sure that u r not jumpshipping!!

doha 15th Sep 2002 21:49

what?
 
hi
what are u talking about ,some body called him and he just put it in the internet with out even check what is going on,and because it is qatar airways u guys jump and whith out knowing what is going on and why the call and make a story about it ,i think u guys should get li... for your selfs

qatar air ways will stay .. as long the flag is there ,and we will fight for it i promise u that..



the carven keep moving and the dogs........

kenoco 17th Sep 2002 21:17

Doha what the hell are u going on about,look across the water atEmirates,now thats an airline.

Speedbrake Lever 17th Sep 2002 21:36

Ahh!!
 
Wow

Thats good news " The Flying Goat " has a safety office.

We can relax

nightbird 18th Sep 2002 07:34

Hi Speedbrake Lever,

So if the flying goat safety office gets it right,the self-loading cargo on board wont get to see any mountain goats up close out their windows.

And then we might start calling it the flying unicorn :p

Speedbrake Lever 18th Sep 2002 11:48

hehe !!

A300Man 19th Sep 2002 11:19

Where is this thread going gents? I have lost track of it entirely.........Doha - lighten up a bit.

nightbird 20th Sep 2002 14:41

Hey NA ,

How about shareing with us why you got that call.
if its not too embarrasing to,that is!:D

NA 21st Sep 2002 18:49

HI, GENT'S, THIS IS NA

SORRY GENT'S , NOW I KNOW WAY THE FIGHT SAFETY WANTED TO SPEAK TO ME , APPARENTLY THE BIG BROTHER ( DFDR , FOQA)
CAUGHT ME DOING AN UNSTABLE APPROACH AT 1000'FEET
NOTE : I SWEAR NO MORE T/O AND LANDING TO THE F/O

Lodestar 22nd Sep 2002 10:58

I tought DFDR and Foqa where supposed to deliver information on an anonymous bases?????

It is not supposed to be used to reprimand the
he crews...it is supposed to provide details on approaches where there is a problem....

Well, this is probably me being naieve! Again! Big brother IS watching us!!!!!

MTQatar 22nd Sep 2002 12:28

Na,
Were you buy any chance flying from MUC earlier in August?

Lodestar,
I have sent you an email recently, I really would like to know what happened in your recent trip to the Gulf.

nightbird 22nd Sep 2002 15:28

We all started as FOs
 
Hey NA,
Thanks for sharing that with us.
i have some idea how that feels,having got a couple of such calls myself,over the last 15 years.
The Qatari safety office sure looks like they are on the ball,and thats a good thing,beleive me.
The Airline i fly for has a 100% fdr monitering programme.
I was a Captain on 737-200s for 3 1/2 years,and now on the A320 going on 2 years.
Both the "Red Flags" i had were on the 737.
One was a slightly positive touch-down(about 3 Gs)which had been done by the FO. Company training Capt who talked to me was quite understanding,(i gave him all the info he wanted)And thats the last i heard of that.
This incident did not prevent me from giving landings to FOs.
i just started the practice of informing the PAX(during my short welcome aboard announcement)if that particular sector was being flown by the First Officer!
the other "call" was an unstabilized approach flown by myself!(it was a circle to land, stabilized at 200 agl)
in retrospect i had noticed the FO squirming a little on his seat!
So, i promised the safety office(and more importantly myself)that i would encourage FOs flying with me to feel free to articulate their "concerns", and ofcourse not thing twice about "Going Around" .
i know that as long as i keep this promise,i should be able to stay out of trouble(for the most part!)
Before i became a Capt myself i remmember all those who had let me gain valuable experience by allowing me to do Take-offs and Landings.
i feel i owe it to them(and to this great job called "Airline Captain")
to let those who are following,get as much hands on experience as i can safely let them have.
A Senior Flt safety office type told me once,that there is nothing wrong with letting the FO fly as long as you ensure that the Approach is stabilized well in time.
If it is not, don't hesitate to carry out a Missed Approach.
The safety folks would be more than happy to chalk it off to experience.
So i guess thats how it works in all great airlines.
Happy Landings:)

NA 22nd Sep 2002 17:37

Nightbird

thank you for charing your thoughts and advice on how to deal with the flight safety office when they call to ask the reason of a DFDR event during a flight

P.S I was just kiding when i stated that no more landing for the F/O, :D :D

Lodestar 22nd Sep 2002 17:41

Hi MT,

Check your mailbox. There should be a long report of my trip to the gulf inthere...

C Ya,

;)

kenoco 22nd Sep 2002 22:24

I was flying to muc when we had a decompression and the o2 masks didn't work,AlBaker said if we said anything we would be in serious trouble.

foxtrot 24th Sep 2002 07:17

Hi NA,
1) a call from the flight safety office makes you put up a post on this forum.
2) a destablised approach makes you swear not to let F/Os touch the controls.
WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT YOU??????????????????????????
no offence but you need to losen up man.

Hi nightbird
you seem to be the type of guy who likes to put in his2pence on every issue which comes up,i see you your located in India which has a couple of very good airlines,if you are flying for one of them you dont do much credit to them or the way they trained you.TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS BEFORE SHOOTING YOUR MOUTH OF OR YOU ARE THE LOCAL FUNNY GUY .
BYE TO ALL YOU GUYS


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