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iggy 17th Mar 2024 23:14


Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat (Post 11617937)
That's why you have to make your first and only wife one who is cabin crew. So much less stress and total empathy from them on the job front. The only downside is that when there's a downturn or a pandemic you're both up s**t creek. And occasionally you may have to fly together of course :ouch:

Dude, I've lost the count of divorced pilot-cc couples that I know of...
Baaaaad advice!

WrldWide 18th Mar 2024 07:28


Originally Posted by iggy (Post 11618094)
Dude, I've lost the count of divorced pilot-cc couples that I know of...
Baaaaad advice!

25+ years with my cc wife:)

BANANASBANANAS 18th Mar 2024 07:33


Originally Posted by WrldWide (Post 11618284)
25+ years with my cc wife:)

19 years and counting with mine!

Busdriver_1122 18th Mar 2024 07:52


Originally Posted by 5strypes (Post 11617288)
As someone who has done exactly this, given up 320 command for RHS in EK, it's all a personal decision. At the end of the day, you're flying planes. Is there likely to be a covid situation in the next 3/4 years, hopefully not. You'll realistically have a widebody command there in 4/5 years at this rate. I'd wager that's more valuable than a 320 command.

But, it's a personal decision. I'm getting more money, it's a safer city for me to raise a family and from experience, my lifestyle better suits long haul.

I don't really think you can make a wrong decision here. It's a job. What's going to suit your personal life better? I don't wanna fly planes when I'm 65. And I won't be retiring early paying 50% tax in Europe.

Command is great, but it's not the golden goose. I'll sit in whatever seat they like if they pay me more.

Good Decision Bro.
I understand you were flying the 320 outside ME.
It completely makes sense for you to move as your family gets better benefits and they are safer AND you get paid better as well.

But in my case i am already in the ME. So if you understand all these things dont change for me if I move. Instead staying at my current airline makes me more money than EK in the long run.

Getting a Command in EK in 4-5 years? Please speak to some people there.

Lastly when it comes to Covid (or similar events). LCC’s flying the 320’s. Made good profit and ALL the Pilots who were let go, were called back!

But again as I said. If I was outside ME and got the Ofeer I would definitely come to EK.
Enjoy your time there

iggy 18th Mar 2024 10:27


Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS (Post 11618287)
19 years and counting with mine!

Mr. BANANASBANANAS and Mr. WrldWide,

Do any of your wives have a sister? Splitting with my non-cc wife at the moment... :sad:

Busdriver_1122 18th Mar 2024 10:32

Guys.
this Thread is not for discussing your married lives.
stick to the topic or please find the suitable thread.
Thanks

iggy 19th Mar 2024 05:00


Originally Posted by Busdriver_1122 (Post 11618408)
Guys.
this Thread is not for discussing your married lives.
stick to the topic or please find the suitable thread.
Thanks

Yes Sir!! :ok:

AL-MEHDAR 23rd Mar 2024 10:38

What the salary differences you are talking about if you flown 80 block hours? How many Flying days on average?

Busdriver_1122 23rd Mar 2024 11:11


Originally Posted by AL-MEHDAR (Post 11622031)
What the salary differences you are talking about if you flown 80 block hours? How many Flying days on average?

Salary Difference in the short term is Good with EK.
But in the long term my current airline is wayyy better.
Flying hours almost same. (80-90).. alinger flights in EK. More turnarounds here.

Australia2 24th Mar 2024 21:50

It’s been briefly raised . . . . . best estimate on time to command ar present with EK ?

Tks in advance, Oz2

Aero_manoloman 25th Mar 2024 08:38


Originally Posted by Busdriver_1122 (Post 11622050)
Salary Difference in the short term is Good with EK.
But in the long term my current airline is wayyy better.
Flying hours almost same. (80-90).. alinger flights in EK. More turnarounds here.

I was weeks away from command training when I decided to join Emirates but my decision was easy because of the conditions I had at that European LOCO carrier As a captain here I'd be making 2/3 of what I'll make as an FO in Emirates. The operation is a nightmare at times (4 sectors/day, 5 days back to back consistently) and I still don't get to live where I want to (42 years old and tired of commuting and paying rent in two European cities). So for me it was a no-brainer.

Are you considering just the salary for that calculation or are you including all the benefits? End of service/pension fund, insurances (health, loss of license), education, housing allowance, platinum card.
There's a document they send candidates that shows projected total rewards. I believe it's grossly exaggerated but it estimates total rewards to be around $16500 per month (F/O). Of course a big percentage of that is not take home money but you should consider that. Subtracting all the non-cash benefits it shows $9500/month take home money. I don't know how realistic that is as it includes profit share which is not guaranteed. If I were you I would just apply and decide later. Spend some time in Dubai and have a taste of the city. Maybe you or your family would hate it there and that'd be it.

HeadUpTheTailpipe 25th Mar 2024 10:48

Great advice, thanks

papalovesjumbo 30th Mar 2024 11:46

I am in similar situation. I think I might go for it as I am single and without kids which is less risk in terms of family situation.

30Yo flying for pink ULCC in eastern Eu. No home base within the network and other LCC at home not any better. Overall my company is nice from personal experience but since I dont have home base I dont think I will stay indefinitely. Also, the town I grew up is irrelevant as home because my family is all around the world now and I am coming from different countries every time coming from holidays. I could try the pinky in ME and stay in the same company but the waiting list is long and dont get all the benefits you would with EK.

Regarding the upgrade. All the cons stated above are right today. But I see a positive trend in competition with the other ME Majors now Ria is lunching next year + A350s coming…(while 777X are really struggling to get certified) it seems to me 5/6 years to first command shot on bus fleet is actually possible. Even if it ends up 7/8 years, its not a deal breaker for me. Long term I want to go to save money while getting global flying experience.

I just applied now. Lets see what happens

cheers



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