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FlyingAce77 17th Jun 2021 13:33

Saudi Royal Aviation
 
So, I know some people who were contacted by recruiters through Linked In for B777-300ER Positions - After shortlisting & Signing the NDA, Candidate Briefing pack was emailed mentioning SRA as the Employer

anyone knows anything about SRA? T/C? Apparently 60 & above can’t get Work Visa in SAudi Arabia.

Klimax 21st Jun 2021 19:42

It seems that they're now attempting to get crew willing to relocate to KSA on an expatriate contract. Needless to say, most experienced qualified pilots, who are not job seeking, are unlikely to be pursue this contract. If you're without a job and you type rating is running out - sure why not. Considering all the aspects related to this operation, you'd think that one of the primary recruitment goals would be to attract the right people. Perhaps it's more of a commercial operation than an operation looking to attract the best suitable candidates. I wonder how many qualified and experienced Captains there are, that would actually relocate to KSA for one of these positions?

Climb150 21st Jun 2021 21:16

KSA. You mean Micronesia?

FlyingAce77 22nd Jun 2021 06:26

Klimax

They have 30 B777s & Gulfstreams, it’s more of a domestic & regional operation for a Startup Company, I have been told, they will pay you whatever you want, but there are restrictions, which is very common in Middle East..
Clearly Pilots over 60 cannot join as Saudi Arabia has put restrictions on issuing work visas for 60 & above, whoever would end up joining would have to be in their 50s & below.

CE5 30th Jun 2021 05:42

B787
 
The position I saw advertise was for B787 Captains nothing mentioned about B777. Has SRA got multiple divisions, can't find much on their website.

LimaVictor 30th Jun 2021 11:42

Anybody knows sth more about T&C?
FlyingAce77: "I have been told, they will pay you whatever you want, but there are restrictions, which is very common in Middle East.." is this true or just a rumor? What kind of restrictions are you referring to?
Is it a commuting contract or you need/must stay and live there like with the other Big3 in the middle east?
Thank you:ok:

Nick 1 30th Jun 2021 15:10

Commuting contract in KSA private means 8/4 on off weeks , or 7/4 some times , never less maybe more...

Klimax 30th Jun 2021 15:45

WHAT would be the “drive” to get any experienced and qualified Captain to settle for 2 months in KSA and 1 month at home? How much and what does that take?

Lucifer786 1st Jul 2021 14:08

By what I understand it’s simply a data gathering exercise.
For whom and for when, I’m not certain.
But I know of this company from a colleague and that is what I understood ..

Klimax 1st Jul 2021 15:53

It has been ongoing since at least September 2020. It’s not only a data gathering process. There’s been online interviews, online personality tests and security screenings. I don’t know the actual CoS on offer, but I know that for the G650 Captain position they require relocation to KSA with an expat contract (I don’t know the terms!).

Lucifer786 1st Jul 2021 16:14

Just curious. Do you by any chance know anyone personally who has actually been employed. Because I most certainly don’t.

Klimax 1st Jul 2021 16:46

Nope, nobody. Zero. Nada.

I know a lot of G650 pilots who has been contacted directly by the company recruitment team, and now various independent recruitment companies are having a go at it. To me the in-house recruitment drive has obviously not been successful in recruiting the pilots needed. Knowing some of the pilots that have been screened for these job positions, I can only conclude that the CoS offered are not meeting the required terms and I personally believe, more specifically, that the requirement for relocation to live in Saudi Arabia (as opposed to rotation!) is The show stopper. It baffles me that they believe it’s possible to attract the right people for this type of operation without offering a rotation. Let’s see how that goes.

Lucifer786 18th Jul 2021 16:39

I don’t suppose anyone’s got a call beyond the very first call and the signing of the NDA right ?

Klimax 19th Jul 2021 08:24

I haven't heard of anything more than what I already said a few posts earlier for the screening. The whole CAE and other recruitment company efforts in recruiting pilots are TBD.

parabellum 19th Jul 2021 14:06

Very few airlines offer a commuting contract now. Saudia itself used only to offer expatriate contracts with fairly relaxed, (but no alcohol), accommodation in expatriate enclosed compounds/villages. Saudia also allowed crew to put them selves on a crew dec. when starting days off. Travel to and from destination in uniform, pilots responsibility to make sure they were back in time for next duty. Singapore tried basings but dumped it as soon as they could, accounts wanted it but operations didn't. Didn't allow for a stabilized and fair captains roster, among other things.

Klimax 19th Jul 2021 21:32

Why is this relevant to the Gulfstream G650 Saudi Royal Aviation Captain positions? It’s not a commercial airline ops, it’s quite a different operation all together.

Sorry mate, just re visited the OP topic and realise this was about B777.

Klimax 19th Jul 2021 21:37

Nexus is 34 on and 31 off. Jet Aviation is 1 mth on 1 mth off on the large cabin biz jets. Fact.

CE5 1st Aug 2021 08:10

Any Interview Information
 
Would be grateful to anyone working there or has gone through the process recently, if they could share their experience please. Basically from the moment the CV was sent or NDA signed, to the day you arrive in Riyadh to start with SRA. Thank you in advance for your help.

piomr 1st Aug 2021 17:52

After signing the NDA, you will be contacted to arrange the interviews. Mostly basic questions to get to know you. Your skill and experience are taken for granted, based on getting to this point. A few aircraft specific questions, limitations and memory items.

Also some basic ATPL knowledge - try to review "how to ace the technical" as there will be questions covered by that book (meteorology and theory of flight).

Important: be confident, and make sure to discuss your expected salary even if not asked. If you mention a figure common to TREs in the region, you are under-selling yourself. Commuting is available if you press for it and negotiate well.

Ask for what you want, as a lot will be asked of you. Zero scope for errors once you are in and SRA will own you, be prepared. After arrival in Riyadh things go smoothly but slowly. Good luck.

Klimax 2nd Aug 2021 10:38

Has the operation actually begun or is it still in the start up phase of a real operation. Any pilots actually hired or all in recruitment? Cheers.


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