EK Shut down
I do not know what people in the UAE can see or hear. Emirates has just closed down.
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Just the freighters remain, we’re all really in the ****, the industry is really on its knees when this lot down tools.
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Well
Originally Posted by Australia2
(Post 10724113)
Just the freighters remain, we’re all really in the ****, the industry is really on its knees.
leaves a few questions in regards to the respect the management has towards its hard working employees |
Wonder what kind of pay, if any, will be extended to staff..
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Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10724140)
Wonder what kind of pay, if any, will be extended to staff..
UK flights not suspended so I assume that’s for belly cargo. |
Originally Posted by WB1900
(Post 10724119)
the Company made 2,3b AED 2018 profit last year number for 2019 will never be announced without impact by corona - the company is also only shutting down flights since 2 weeks - yes in those 2 weeks they have closed all of them - and the first thing the financial strongest company does is pay cuts
leaves a few questions in regards to the respect the management has towards its hard working employees No company is immune from this regardless of how strong you think they are. I’ll take a 50% pay cut for 3 months VS 2 months (or more) leave without pay any day. Even if it is ‘only 2 weeks’ you must be pretty naive to think that’s all it will be. On top of that things will not magically return to normal after that. A lot of the schedule changes announced only 24 hours ago have cancellations until the end of May or June. At the end of this year, we should all just hope we can celebrate still having a job. |
There is currently more on this story in R&N
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
(Post 10724148)
50% salary for 3 months so far.
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Well that’s the difference to a western world
In Germany dir eg the workforce now face a 40% pay cut- in other words 60% of the salary will be payed -from the remaining 40% the state will take up to 60% of the loss towards the employee - therefore the monthly payout shrinks only by Approx 10%
is it wrong to ask that the whole crises is not to be held on the employees and that a rich state like the UAE jumps in and helps the companies - at least for a longer Periode than 2 weeks before such drastic measures are put down to the workforce? |
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From an update on the EK media relations site:
Having received requests from governments and customers to support the repatriation of travellers, Emirates will continue to operate passenger and cargo flights to the following countries and territories until further notice, as long as borders remain open, and there is demand: the UK, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Australia, South Africa, USA, and Canada. The situation remains dynamic, and travellers can check flight status on emirates.com. |
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To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 10724494)
Coronavirus testing queue at EK.
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Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10724537)
To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).
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Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10724537)
To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).
This is a pragmatic choice by EK. Their calculus is based on the fact that its a temporary measure, and taking some short term pain is better than the long term impact of laying off staff. Will be interesting to see if this extends beyond a few weeks. |
Given the ‘understandable cutbacks’ by EK and other UAE employers, how long before a number of Expat employees will be ‘at risk’ from the UAE’s Debt Laws???
PZU - Out of Africa (Retired) |
Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10724537)
To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).
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Positives for EK pilots are now in the double digits.
Less than 1% but still significant I would say. |
How can you possibly know that Airbubba?
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Originally Posted by sheikhthecamel
(Post 10724866)
This is a pragmatic choice by EK. Their calculus is based on the fact that its a temporary measure, and taking some short term pain is better than the long term impact of laying off staff. Will be interesting to see if this extends beyond a few weeks.
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Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10726601)
My point exactly - very non-middle Eastern. One would have expected them to take the most egregious, fool hardened short time decisions. There might be hope after all !
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Originally Posted by DuneMentat
(Post 10727244)
I'm sure this is a very calculated decision. By not forcing people on unpaid leave and with most crew in Dubai they are ready to ramp up with a day's notice when the go is given thereby grabbing a big market share of those who have to travel as soon as they can (lots of people are stuck overseas).
With its geographically diversified route footprint, if I were a pilot, I'd personally rather be at EK than almost any other airline I can think of right now - purely in terms of job security. |
Originally Posted by sheikhthecamel
(Post 10727374)
That's a good point. Another thing that comes to mind is that a significant proportion of EK's capacity has served markets that have (so far!) been relatively unaffected by Covid-19; India, much of SEA, Africa etc... I assume that most of that demand will come back quite quickly if the infection numbers in these areas stabilise in the next weeks. Contrast with the American and European airlines, who I think have a much higher capacity serving the badly hit regions.
With its geographically diversified route footprint, if I were a pilot, I'd personally rather be at EK than almost any other airline I can think of right now - purely in terms of job security. https://www.timeslive.co.za/ And I think India has low rates because they are not testing. |
Originally Posted by sheikhthecamel
(Post 10727374)
With its geographically diversified route footprint, if I were a pilot, I'd personally rather be at EK than almost any other airline I can think of right now - purely in terms of job security.
EK knows that they will get government support. And if things get really bad, they can go to the piggy bank in Abu Dhabi. And maybe rebrand as Khalifa Airways sans the A380 'Albatross' fleet. |
I think it may the the last straw and drive the merger of Emirates with Etihad and form a purely National airline. Etihad has been losing money hand over fist and this would be the ideal time to reorganise the whole aviation sector in the country. What to do about all the airports though...
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Originally Posted by sheikhthecamel
(Post 10727374)
With its geographically diversified route footprint, if I were a pilot, I'd personally rather be at EK than almost any other airline I can think of right now - purely in terms of job security.
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Originally Posted by sheikhthecamel
(Post 10727374)
a significant proportion of EK's capacity has served markets that have (so far!) been relatively unaffected by Covid-19; India, much of SEA, Africa etc... I assume that most of that demand will come back quite quickly if the infection numbers in these areas stabilise in the next weeks. Contrast with the American and European airlines, who I think have a much higher capacity serving the badly hit regions.
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Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding
(Post 10728241)
I doubt any continent will be immune to major CV-19 outbreaks. I'd rather my chances in North America and Europe than in Africa, India and South East Asia. The west will be quicker to contain this than certain parts of the under developed world... or at least have the billions of dollars to throw at it and try.
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