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SOPS 22nd Mar 2020 14:37

EK Shut down
 
I do not know what people in the UAE can see or hear. Emirates has just closed down.

Australia2 22nd Mar 2020 14:59

Just the freighters remain, we’re all really in the ****, the industry is really on its knees when this lot down tools.

WB1900 22nd Mar 2020 15:04

Well
 

Originally Posted by Australia2 (Post 10724113)
Just the freighters remain, we’re all really in the ****, the industry is really on its knees.

the Company made 2,3b AED 2018 profit last year number for 2019 will never be announced without impact by corona - the company is also only shutting down flights since 2 weeks - yes in those 2 weeks they have closed all of them - and the first thing the financial strongest company does is pay cuts
leaves a few questions in regards to the respect the management has towards its hard working employees

atakacs 22nd Mar 2020 15:29

Wonder what kind of pay, if any, will be extended to staff..

Mr Good Cat 22nd Mar 2020 15:39


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10724140)
Wonder what kind of pay, if any, will be extended to staff..

50% salary for 3 months so far.

UK flights not suspended so I assume that’s for belly cargo.

aviation_enthus 22nd Mar 2020 15:54


Originally Posted by WB1900 (Post 10724119)
the Company made 2,3b AED 2018 profit last year number for 2019 will never be announced without impact by corona - the company is also only shutting down flights since 2 weeks - yes in those 2 weeks they have closed all of them - and the first thing the financial strongest company does is pay cuts
leaves a few questions in regards to the respect the management has towards its hard working employees

2.3B AED on 96B turnover. Hardly a huge margin...

No company is immune from this regardless of how strong you think they are. I’ll take a 50% pay cut for 3 months VS 2 months (or more) leave without pay any day.

Even if it is ‘only 2 weeks’ you must be pretty naive to think that’s all it will be. On top of that things will not magically return to normal after that. A lot of the schedule changes announced only 24 hours ago have cancellations until the end of May or June.

At the end of this year, we should all just hope we can celebrate still having a job.

Pugilistic Animus 22nd Mar 2020 15:59

There is currently more on this story in R&N

Airbubba 22nd Mar 2020 16:01


Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat (Post 10724148)
50% salary for 3 months so far.

That's for pilots and senior cabin staff. Lower pay grades take a 25% or no pay cut. And that's a reduction in basic pay, all allowances like housing and education stay intact. For now at least.

WB1900 22nd Mar 2020 16:29

Well that’s the difference to a western world
 
In Germany dir eg the workforce now face a 40% pay cut- in other words 60% of the salary will be payed -from the remaining 40% the state will take up to 60% of the loss towards the employee - therefore the monthly payout shrinks only by Approx 10%

is it wrong to ask that the whole crises is not to be held on the employees and that a rich state like the UAE jumps in and helps the companies - at least for a longer Periode than 2 weeks before such drastic measures are put down to the workforce?

Pugilistic Animus 22nd Mar 2020 17:33

https://www.pprune.org/forum/showthread.php?t=630794

Airbubba 22nd Mar 2020 18:39

From an update on the EK media relations site:


Having received requests from governments and customers to support the repatriation of travellers, Emirates will continue to operate passenger and cargo flights to the following countries and territories until further notice, as long as borders remain open, and there is demand: the UK, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Australia, South Africa, USA, and Canada. The situation remains dynamic, and travellers can check flight status on emirates.com.
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...id-19-updated/

Airbubba 22nd Mar 2020 22:05

Coronavirus testing queue at EK.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9ceed7c322.jpg

atakacs 22nd Mar 2020 22:53

To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).

Phantom Driver 23rd Mar 2020 00:13


Originally Posted by Airbubba (Post 10724494)
Coronavirus testing queue at EK.

Social distancing obviously not considered an issue ..... It will be interesting to see which side of the argument prevails .

Islandlad 23rd Mar 2020 00:17


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10724537)
To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).

Unless those who are positive are then shipped out of the country for the greater good.

sheikhthecamel 23rd Mar 2020 08:30


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10724537)
To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).

This is a more a matter of necessity rather than welfare. Most EK staff are expats; those that are laid off or whose salaries and benefits are cut significantly would probably have to return to their home countries fairly quickly. This would not only cost the company in terms of repatriation, but when (if?) things turn around it would then be much more challenging and costly to ramp-up staff levels.

This is a pragmatic choice by EK. Their calculus is based on the fact that its a temporary measure, and taking some short term pain is better than the long term impact of laying off staff. Will be interesting to see if this extends beyond a few weeks.


pzu 23rd Mar 2020 10:50

Given the ‘understandable cutbacks’ by EK and other UAE employers, how long before a number of Expat employees will be ‘at risk’ from the UAE’s Debt Laws???

PZU - Out of Africa (Retired)

Emma Royds 23rd Mar 2020 16:01


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10724537)
To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised by the conditions extended to the staff. UAE is not known for their social welfare (to foreigners).

The testing is not done for the benefit for the crew but rather to curb the spread of the virus in the UAE.

Airbubba 23rd Mar 2020 16:15

Positives for EK pilots are now in the double digits.

Less than 1% but still significant I would say.

Capn Rex Havoc 24th Mar 2020 11:15

How can you possibly know that Airbubba?


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