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donpizmeov 29th Jan 2019 09:10

They can pay for and do the course. But they have to go find a job when it's done . They do not get flow into EK .

Officer Kite 29th Jan 2019 14:59


At the present time , subject to change, the cadet program is for emirati nationals only. other than that's an individual would have to meet the minimum entry requirements and pass the selection.
Are you totally sure about that? I myself met a young English bloke at Oxford among the Emiratis wearing an Emirates lanyard when I went for an assessment 2 years ago. He stood out from the other Emirates trainees (for obvious reasons) so I had a chat with him to see how he was training on the Emirates programme. It turned out his father was a captain in the airline and was very senior so managed to negotiate it. Emirates agreed that if he paid for his own training and supported himself throughout, they would allow him to join the other funded cadets. There was to be a bond for the 777 rating at the end.

General Dogsbody 29th Jan 2019 15:38

Might have been spinning U a Yarn

Officer Kite 29th Jan 2019 15:54

Potentially, but unlikely. We didn't meet on the street, it was at OAA itself and unless they too were in on the act he was very clearly part of the emirates cadets there.

MaverickPrime 29th Jan 2019 16:06


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10374587)
Potentially, but unlikely. We didn't meet on the street, it was at OAA itself and unless they too were in on the act he was very clearly part of the emirates cadets there.

I'm hearing similar stories to that one.

General Dogsbody 29th Jan 2019 18:17

EK Doesn't work that way, and expats do not get into the EK ab intio program regardless of who their Father Was..

Nice story to spin to the gullible

Officer Kite 29th Jan 2019 19:50

Guess I fell for a pack of lies then :} , it makes little difference to me anyway i suppose, maverickprime what have you seen?

Ilyushin76 30th Jan 2019 13:55


Originally Posted by Smoke mountain (Post 10290185)
Pay 2 fly is what is damaging this industry! We shouldn't encourage people to do it! We need airlines to get back to the old days bonding pilots to work for couple of years.. All this pilots shortage in the world because airlines prefer Direct entry pilots which is unfair in my opinion.

@airman Get an EASA license from any european country and work your way from there ..

I 100% agree with what you have to say regarding the p2f programs. Unfortunately, many pilots (especially South / East Asians) have no other choice. A lot of people continue to get milked out of their hard earned money to this day and its very sad.

Where I come from, either you get picked up by the state carrier (that too if you have amazing links or are someone who can ace the exam and the "interview") or just continue flying in flight schools as a flight instructor and eventually just wither away. The private carriers would go for someone who has excess hours on multi engine turbines or are " ex - men in uniform".
The only option some fortunate pilots have had in the past is via the p2f programs offered by the private carriers. Inside I am sure none of these pilots are happy about the choice they made, due to the financial hit they took.



MaverickPrime 30th Jan 2019 21:50


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10374800)
Guess I fell for a pack of lies then :} , it makes little difference to me anyway i suppose, maverickprime what have you seen?

I’m not so sure you were told lies.

Anyhow, I never understood why EK don’t have a SO programme like CX for fATPL holders.

Wizofoz 30th Jan 2019 22:25


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10374535)
Are you totally sure about that? I myself met a young English bloke at Oxford among the Emiratis wearing an Emirates lanyard when I went for an assessment 2 years ago. He stood out from the other Emirates trainees (for obvious reasons) so I had a chat with him to see how he was training on the Emirates programme. It turned out his father was a captain in the airline and was very senior so managed to negotiate it. Emirates agreed that if he paid for his own training and supported himself throughout, they would allow him to join the other funded cadets. There was to be a bond for the 777 rating at the end.

Then it's an exception made for an individual with connection- it's not the rule.

MaverickPrime 31st Jan 2019 11:05


Originally Posted by Wizofoz (Post 10375971)
Then it's an exception made for an individual with connection- it's not the rule.

Maybe we didn't make ourselves very clear, but I think we were fishing to find out if there are, or were, exceptions made? However, I can imagine that people would maybe not want to make those exceptions public knowledge.

I was fully aware that its not the rule and understand that you need to be an Emirati national to join the cadet scheme officially.

donpizmeov 31st Jan 2019 11:43

Anyone can pay and join the EK training college, and come out with a licence and instrument rating and ATPL subjects completed . You just have to find your own job as you don't make the min requirements for EK.

Officer Kite 31st Jan 2019 14:06


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10376348)
Anyone can pay and join the EK training college, and come out with a licence and instrument rating and ATPL subjects completed . You just have to find your own job as you don't make the min requirements for EK.

Yes but we were talking about joining the EK cadet programme specifically, who funny enough themselves don't even use the emirates aviation college

Emma Royds 31st Jan 2019 16:06

Aiman0092

I would suggest checking out the cadet program with Aer Lingus. It will give you a path to a job in a decent company and not far from where your home is either.

You could still move to the Gulf later in your career if you still wanted.

donpizmeov 3rd Feb 2019 13:35

Actually Kite they do . Do try and keep up .

Officer Kite 3rd Feb 2019 22:18

Only recently it seems, but well done champ :D :rolleyes:

handsome goafer 4th Feb 2019 18:55


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10379504)
Only recently it seems, but well done champ :D :rolleyes:

Good old champ


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