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JULY 2018 ROSTERS
Curious how your July rosters are? with the new 3 man ops on ULR and an expected busy summer schedule.
Never been the one to complain a lot, but i get 6 days leave and they somehow Managed to squeeze an 86 hour Roster. Happy days!!:ugh: |
104hrs (A380). Insane. And can't swap anything of course due to all those restrictions and roster compression.
A "tad short" of pilots the boss says...what a joke! |
Did STC say all fixed by this fall or just the fall , 2019/2020 or maybe 2021�� |
89 hrs, somehow a decrease from June.... Doesn't make any sense to me.
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100+ hours. Middle bid, quite broad biddings used, and nothing awarded. Didn't even try swapping...
Keep Rowing |
Mid bid, total roster bid grant 0%.
Bidding is now an exercise in futility. |
Over the 90 mark again.....
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38 sectors and 86hrs. Boeing 737 |
well The only way to show there is a problem is bringing up the problem itself. Remove one pairing from the rosters each one of you. Reserve crew will cover what it is possible and beyond that.........its not our concern....... Otherwise don't complain and keep rowing....... |
Originally Posted by flareflyer
(Post 10174809)
well The only way to show there is a problem is bringing up the problem itself. Remove one pairing from the rosters each one of you. Reserve crew will cover what it is possible and beyond that.........its not our concern....... Otherwise don't complain and keep rowing....... Only personal roster amendment will retain your sanity and force some consequences. Otherwise don't complain and keep on rowing ...... |
Originally Posted by glofish
(Post 10174869)
Totally agree. No complaints on here, no letter to TCT (with a silly answer ...), not to mention any other Sancho Panza to the sick Quixote in the bouncy castle will work.
Only personal roster amendment will retain your sanity and force some consequences. Otherwise don't complain and keep on rowing ...... You must remeber that to EK you are nothing more than a part of a machine, if you wear out or fail then you will be replaced. Its really quite simple. Yes, there have been exceptions where they have been helpful in special circumstances - but revolting by pressing 2 will not be one of them. |
Certainly Outlaw. But ......
(Extract from OMA): Flight duty is prohibited when a crew member’s capacity for work is reduced because of illness or general physical condition. Decrease of fitness includes the effects of disease, injury, alcohol, drugs, fatigue, etc. In case of inquiry (inquisition) simply refer to the above (Extract from the OMA): Decrease of fitness under the influence of mental stress may also occur. It is the responsibility of the crew member to decide whether or not he is fit for flight duty in such circumstances. In case of harassment as you described, refer to the above We need balls to point at the legal defences that are available. Just pressing 2 is not what i meant. Calling in sick or fatigued (better) must be accompanied by valid arguments. Imagine making a mistake under fatigue or stress, it will not hold as a defence, they'll be all over you with above articles if you invoke fatigue or mental company stress. Look after yourself guys. |
Originally Posted by Turbokite
(Post 10174180)
Curious how your July rosters are? with the new 3 man ops on ULR and an expected busy summer schedule.
Never been the one to complain a lot, but i get 6 days leave and they somehow Managed to squeeze an 86 hour Roster. Happy days!!:ugh: |
And file an ASR if your roster/pattern causes fatigue. Write to TCT and provide your roster and your bid receipt if you think the manual insertion brigade have been at work. We need everyone to provide the evidence that the system doesn't work
Without lots of data nothing is going to change. |
Hopefully you lot will get a better reply to submitting your patterns than 'The FMS software says the pattern is fine, so you can fly it' which is the stock standard reply CC get when querying questionable rosters/trips.
Also if you do the above they then in some cases come back at you with every time you used your company discount card on days off, down to the time of day/night and ask why you were not resting then if you are so 'tired' (they have no clue honestly) But I agree circling back to the OM-E mandating requirement to be fit for duty usually gets them off your case for a while at least. |
AS was asked why we used Assumed temperature takeoff method, and him pontificating about how its so important to not run the engines at max to save wear and tear, but when asked why they run pilots at max into the ground rostering, his face turned into MR. Evil. You are a slave, and slaves don’t ask they do. This is the culture at EK, burn you out spit you out, and repeat, however they are running out of borgs to replace the burnouts with. |
Ladies and gentlemen, there is only one way to change your rosters: ******* leave that **** hole. I understand all the constraints, but trust me: I was one of you. It can be done. You don’t need money that bad. Otherwise, as it’s been said ad nauseam, shut up and keep rowing. |
What he said.
It isn't going to improve in anything like the short to medium term. Cut your cloth accordingly, all the money in the world is no good to you once you're six feet under at an early age having maintained the crazy schedules and rosters. I'm working my passage out of here, a far less glamorous job awaits, but its far less flying over the yearly period and means I might even see something of a retirement in later years. |
Nobody thinks it will happen to them but long haul flying and the scheduled at Emirates will lower your life expectancy. What would anyone guess? Maybe 30 days for every year you work for EK? A 15 year career would then end your life 450 days early... it doesn’t seem like much, but when you figure in the years lost living in Dubai and away from family and friends it can begin to add up. Worldwide, the average life expectancy at birth was 70.5 years (68 years and 4 months for males and 72 years and 8 months for females) over the period 2010–2015 according to United Nations World Population Prospects 2015 Revision. For a guy in his early 50’s, you’re looking at maybe 15 more years not working for EK. If you subtract out another year and 1/2... it isn’t much. We all only get so much time. Pick and choose carefully how you use it. |
Go home and enjoy what life you have left. If you went to the clinic and they said ... you have 3 years left to live... would you stay in Dubai??? If the answer is no, then have a think about things. ( My opinion only) |
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