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Chewthecrude 3rd May 2018 12:21

Managing expectations
 
And there we have it..."pay and reward statement" coming next week..."limited funds available" ..."You may think tha's a not-so-subtleway of suggesting that we should manage our expectations-and to be fair it probably is"...

We see one color they see another color altough we're looking at the same thing...

We have all been warned to expect little next week.

Joker11 3rd May 2018 12:26

I expect nothing and I am still let down.

BANANASBANANAS 3rd May 2018 12:35

I hope HH and the board are able to manage their own expectations of the airline when they finally wake up and realise how many pilots have left, are leaving and are continuing to leave.

I have tried to be loyal and professional but my patience is now at an end.

drop kick 3rd May 2018 12:37

Best reserve some more parking slots ...

gtaflyer 3rd May 2018 17:48

I see a very awful summer ahead for those remaining behind more work and stress...

Originally Posted by drop kick (Post 10137003)
Best reserve some more parking slots ...


dustyflightdeck 3rd May 2018 22:05

No surprise really. Why bother retaining anyone? Applications are flowing in and people are even asking to come back!!!

The Outlaw 4th May 2018 00:37


Originally Posted by dustyflightdeck (Post 10137396)
No surprise really. Why bother retaining anyone? Applications are flowing in and people are even asking to come back!!!

I think we may have a new record. How long did it take the talking horse or TOGA to spout this type of rubbish? Mind you we have 170 cadets racing to the rescue so problem solved! Good thing the cockpits are big enough to house those big watches, hair gel and cheap perfume.

New fast acting, high proof Kool-Aid I guess.

donpizmeov 4th May 2018 03:02

TCAS sprouted the “we have thousands of applicants waiting to take your job” mantra as well. Seemed to work really well back then, so I guess BBJ just thought he could roll it out again .Really unfair of you to notice Outlaw :}

Wonder if the pay review the will be the old “ productivity will be lifted to 92hrs because all that ULR and delivering aircraft to the DWC parking lot flying is really easy. And you should all just be happy to have a job in these difficult times. ”

Good news is it has been found that the reduction of cabin on flights has been so successful than a further GR2 will be removed commencing June. FG1s on Boeing ULR flights also to be adjusted downwards .Seems a clear sign of how things are going.

SOPS 4th May 2018 04:44

Well , that didn’t take him long!! Do these guys all use the same text book or something?

thatwasclose 4th May 2018 05:19

Facts be facts . We do have some guys who want to come back and I believe last month they interviewed and passed quite a lot of people .
Those are facts . Quality of them etc etc that’s a different thing .

gtaflyer 4th May 2018 05:54


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10137513)
TCAS sprouted the “we have thousands of applicants waiting to take your job” mantra as well. Seemed to work really well back then, so I guess BBJ just thought he could roll it out again .Really unfair of you to notice Outlaw :}

Wonder if the pay review the will be the old “ productivity will be lifted to 92hrs because all that ULR and delivering aircraft to the DWC parking lot flying is really easy. And you should all just be happy to have a job in these difficult times. ”

Good news is it has been found that the reduction of cabin on flights has been so successful than a further GR2 will be removed commencing June. FG1s on Boeing ULR flights also to be adjusted downwards .Seems a clear sign of how things are going.

Agree with the DON but it’s difficult times for the airline not the pilots. I just don’t understand the pilot workforce in such airline, as jobs are in Abundance and there has never been so many options they should be leaving in droves and stop holding back there careers. The writing on the the wall could not be any bigger font!!

felixthecat 4th May 2018 07:35

Just Smoke & Mirrors.....

alwayzinit 4th May 2018 08:04

Next week children, Brain will be telling us a story about his long haul experience, concentrating on his rest and recovery advice.

Jack D 4th May 2018 08:27


Originally Posted by alwayzinit (Post 10137669)
Next week children, Brain will be telling us a story about his long haul experience, concentrating on his rest and recovery advice.

Loco guys with limited experience that’s all . top mangers are expensive and tend to want some autonomy in their decision making .
Is Hr Mueller still in the building ?

Saltaire 4th May 2018 10:37

Good question. Bueller? I mean Mueller? ...Mueller? What happened to that guy?
While I appreciate Brian's dialogue and comms, he's really just a conduit from up above. But Brian if your listening, take some notes...drop the productively threshold, give us proper credit for leave days, 3 years now without a pay increase, more than 2 days off after a ULR. I'll leave it there.

dustyflightdeck 4th May 2018 10:41


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 10137541)
Well , that didn’t take him long!! Do these guys all use the same text book or something?

True it didn't take him long to jump on the company band wagon


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10137513)

Seems a clear sign of how things are going.

​​​​​​​At such an alarming rate!!

glofish 4th May 2018 14:05

Resistance is futile.

At a recent CIF (commander in focus) day the facilitator was full of a life with Brian. The participants a tad less. They convened that it is no longer time for talk, but for delivery.
Now we have the perfect example of what the upper echelons made of this kind of feedback: More blah blah.

Solution? Simple: If next weeks talk is even more only blah blah ...... more ABC

harry the cod 4th May 2018 16:48

He's in a month or two and you expect change already? FFS, give the guy a chance. Work with him, not against him and lets see collectively if there are positives to come out of it. Write to him. He can only ever stand a chance of changing things if he's armed with the data and evidence. It's not him who's ultimately controlling the policies but it is him who can influence those that do.

We complain when we hear nothing, we complain when we do. If there are people here who truly believe nothing will ever change, the solution is obvious. Leave!

Harry

LHR Rain 4th May 2018 17:12

Are you going to leave Harry?
I’m not having a go at you but you seemed to have possibly “crossed the Rubicon” in a previous post.

Jack D 4th May 2018 18:20


Originally Posted by harry the cod (Post 10138096)
He's in a month or two and you expect change already? FFS, give the guy a chance. Work with him, not against him and lets see collectively if there are positives to come out of it. Write to him. He can only ever stand a chance of changing things if he's armed with the data and evidence. It's not him who's ultimately controlling the policies but it is him who can influence those that do.

We complain when we hear nothing, we complain when we do. If there are people here who truly believe nothing will ever change, the solution is obvious. Leave!

Harry

Sorry H now your just being silly ! and you’ve been in EK how long ?


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