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donpizmeov 17th Apr 2018 13:50

The third issue is that it actually hasn't been announced that this is happen yet. So a lot of energy is being wasted on a non event so far.

Forth issue is that Dubai customs collected the duty last time, not the airline. So the money paid as duty goes to the government. No surprise there.

And pilots should be given a better duty free allowance than the pax down the back. As pilots are better looking, and just great guys/gals. This also seems very obvious.

dustyflightdeck 17th Apr 2018 14:09

The rumour is May 1. Last time it was announced 3 days prior if I am not mistaken?

aeropix 17th Apr 2018 15:08

Thursday April 26th, 3:15pm
 
26th is the last Thursday in April. Expect announcement then.

givemewings 18th Apr 2018 02:44


And pilots should be given a better duty free allowance than the pax down the back. As pilots are better looking, and just great guys/gals. This also seems very obvious.
:} :ok:

This sounds like a thread starter in the good old days of "fun" pprune lol

777-200LR 18th Apr 2018 02:58

Because they have perfected the art of bean counting, they have already put a number of resignations into account if this materializes

Easy Peasy 18th Apr 2018 08:22


Originally Posted by 777-200LR (Post 10122156)
Because they have perfected the art of bean counting, they have already put a number of resignations into account if this materializes

Just like everyone quits after the profit share announcement?? It never happens, everyone keeps rowing.

777-200LR 18th Apr 2018 15:11


Just like everyone quits after the profit share announcement?? It never happens, everyone keeps rowing
Couldn’t agree more. The amount of times I’ve heard that long before ever joining EK!

Jack D 18th Apr 2018 20:18


Originally Posted by johnjonesnine (Post 10121315)
There are two separate issues here it seems to me:


Firstly there is whether or not anyone should be allowed to bring alcohol on a plane to Dubai. The Government of Dubai is entitled to permit this or not as it chooses (Qatar doesn't permit it for example, even though alcohol is available in Qatar). That law should apply to everyone equally, passengers and crew. However the airline is entitled to apply separate rules to its employees - when you are flying you are at work and responsible for the passengers and equipment of your employer. The airline could say that it does not want employees bringing any alcohol (or a limited amount of alcohol) on to its planes and it would be perfectly within its rights to do so - most workplaces the world over do not allow employees to bring alcohol on to the premises.


The second issue is the application of a charge/duty by airlines on alcohol brought into Dubai by airline personnel. Here the airline has no rights whatsoever. Duties are a tax levied by Governments only, and not by corporate entities. The taxes paid by airline staff resident in Dubai should be the same as those paid by any other resident of Dubai.

So the lunch time beer at the BMW factory is truly unique ... not to mention the wine offered in staff restaurants all over Europe .. who knew ?

Flyboy010 19th Apr 2018 03:15

So passengers and other airlines crew are fine! But not EK crew!?!? Why they hate us so much 😡

Simplythebeast 19th Apr 2018 06:28

Whats the problem? Just get it drunk before you land.......simples.

harry the cod 19th Apr 2018 15:24

So, 32 posts in and still no confirmation from The thread starter as to the validity and source of his information.

I can't believe how many people get their knickers in a twist without any concrete evidence to back up this drivel! It may have slipped the notice of many but The Outlaw will be leaving EK within the next month or so. A last attempt to stir the pot and wind up the angry and gullible mob before leaving perhaps?

If this policy is indeed forthcoming, which I very much doubt, let's deal with it as and when. In the meantime, seriously?

Harry

The Outlaw 19th Apr 2018 18:42

Wait for it Harry....have some faith in the downward trend!

I assume you can read so you might remember that the lifting of the ban was a TEMPORARY MEASURE as written by the company. No where was it ever written that this was rescinded permanently. You may also recall that the "R" in PPRUNE stands for "rumour", would you agree with that Mr. Cod?

If I recall correctly, your country of birth allows for 1 litre of spirts or 2 bottles of wine duty free, much the same as mine, but we don't complain there, why is that? Booze and smoke are a big source of tax in most western countries so why not here? Start small with crew then slowly restrict passengers over time. Seems logical for any country looking for additional revenue. You strike me as a logical thinker Harold, I thought you of all people would support the masters on this one!

Its coming, its not a rumour and no, I won't reveal my sources. The target date is May although I suspect it might come a little later, lets see how it plays out with the religious holidays approaching.

Enjoy your duty free cola!

Emma Royds 19th Apr 2018 19:59


Booze and smoke are a big source of tax in most western countries so why not here? Start small with crew then slowly restrict passengers over time.
Just my gut feeling but I can't see them altering the allowance for passengers any time soon. The allowance is generous in global terms and ridiculously so in a regional context, when some GCC states prohibit any alcohol from being taken in.

The main reason I suspect is tourism. If you think the Russians on holiday in Sharjah are dry for their entire stay, then think again! :E

Joker11 20th Apr 2018 17:49


Originally Posted by Emma Royds (Post 10124317)
Just my gut feeling but I can't see them altering the allowance for passengers any time soon. The allowance is generous in global terms and ridiculously so in a regional context, when some GCC states prohibit any alcohol from being taken in.

The main reason I suspect is tourism. If you think the Russians on holiday in Sharjah are dry for their entire stay, then think again! :E

I was talking to my colleague the other day. UAE's alcohol allowance is more generous than most Western countries as they don't impose a limit of hard liquer. You can bring in 4L of any type you like. Most countries don't have that.

Craggenmore 20th Apr 2018 18:05

Oh Joy.

The Outlaw = SOPS V.2

Spoke to Customs this morning (when he finally got off his phone) and he had no idea.

RK Blue sky 21st Apr 2018 02:09

It’s really good to see that some pilots aren’t shackled to Emirates and can escape.
Good luck Outlaw. Wherever you’re going I’m sure it’s better than here.

serf 21st Apr 2018 06:49

When do you have time to drink all this booze?

The Outlaw 21st Apr 2018 16:12


Originally Posted by Craggenmore (Post 10125234)
Oh Joy.

The Outlaw = SOPS V.2

Spoke to Customs this morning (when he finally got off his phone) and he had no idea.

Yes, because escaping EK is the most painful and selfish thing SOPS or myself (and many hundreds of others) have ever done!

Craggenmore = Stockholm Syndrome and a good minion!!

Highway1 21st Apr 2018 16:17


Originally Posted by 777-200LR (Post 10122156)
Because they have perfected the art of bean counting, they have already put a number of resignations into account if this materializes


Is there really anyone who would resign over the loss of Duty Free?

fliion 21st Apr 2018 16:23


Originally Posted by The Outlaw (Post 10126027)
Yes, because escaping EK is the most painful and selfish thing SOPS or myself (and many hundreds of others) have ever done!

Craggenmore = Stockholm Syndrome and a good minion!!

Outlaw comparing yourself to SOPS is a tad rich. SOPS has never attacked his former colleagues like you and a few others do. He gives a perspective that is his experience and happiness with leaving.

There are guys that leave and come back here and have good input, Neptune, Falcon, SOPS etc - but they don’t blur the lines between mgt & pilots - that you and people like AirBubba do.

Craggenmore has always had balanced input.

You are often on here having a bitter pop at EK pilots - we are not the source of your anger. In fact I would go so far as to say that one of the main reasons many of us stay - is because of the guys in the flight deck that you keep having a go at.

Do us a favor - save your vitriol for the ex mgt that you have issues with - as against your old colleagues who you worked side by side with, guys and gals who on occasion probably helped you out of sticky ending.

Never understood the guys who leave and take it out on their fellow pilots.

Grow up


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