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Aiza 20th Feb 2018 16:03

Do you turn FD's Off after landing?
 
A question for airbus pilots,

Do you turn off fd's after landing ? if yes, why ?

thanks, safe flying!!

safelife 20th Feb 2018 16:45

No, never, ever.
No reason to do that.

Romasik 20th Feb 2018 16:49


Originally Posted by Aiza (Post 10059404)
A question for airbus pilots,

Do you turn off fd's after landing ? if yes, why ?

thanks, safe flying!!

Yes. To save some power consumed by FD P/Bs:)
Seriously, there is no valid reason. Just to reset the thing and let the next crew to start from square one.
What really perplexes me, is when the previous crew sets all volume controls to minimum, and I have to rotate 16 knobs to the MID position. This is one of the most time consuming parts of cockpit prep.:)

B2N2 20th Feb 2018 17:10


Originally Posted by safelife (Post 10059441)
No, never, ever.
No reason to do that.

In Boeing aircraft you do....part of the after landing check list.

Its Maui 20th Feb 2018 17:19

I've worked for two major european Airbus users and one doesn't and one does....

Why do Boeing do it? Is it to allow the Master/Slave logic to be reset for the next sector (737NG)?

EK380 20th Feb 2018 20:21

If we’re talking A380 the automatic PRIM reset x mins after shutdown switches it off anyway.

WrldWide 20th Feb 2018 20:49

On t7 yes, flew md11 for many many years, never. Must be a boeing thing.

Fat Busdriver 20th Feb 2018 21:30

Yes! The reason? Monkey see monkey doo! ;-)

Flybartfcp 20th Feb 2018 21:57

We used to until some years ago, now we don’t at our airbus fleet

B2N2 21st Feb 2018 03:09


Originally Posted by Fat Busdriver (Post 10059740)
Yes! The reason? Monkey see monkey doo! ;-)

You tell me buddy....

https://flyuk.aero/assets/downloads/resources/checklists/UKV-PRD-B737-CHECKLIST-V2.pdf

http://www.kennair.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/B777-200-CHECKLIST.pdf

maggot 21st Feb 2018 03:26


Originally Posted by B2N2 (Post 10059924)
You tell me buddy....

https://flyuk.aero/assets/downloads/resources/checklists/UKV-PRD-B737-CHECKLIST-V2.pdf

http://www.kennair.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/B777-200-CHECKLIST.pdf


That's great for Boeing's but,


Originally Posted by Aiza (Post 10059404)
A question for airbus pilots,


Aiza 21st Feb 2018 08:03


Originally Posted by EK380 (Post 10059674)
If we’re talking A380 the automatic PRIM reset x mins after shutdown switches it off anyway.

What about the A320 series?

PPRuNeUser0182 21st Feb 2018 08:22


Originally Posted by Bonway (Post 10060052)
Perhaps you want to look into that checklist. Turning the F/D's off (Boeing 777/787, 744) prior to selecting the fuel cutoff switches to off cancels the next sector's F/D initialization self-test.


I rarely log in and say anything; but this sort of info is brilliant! Never knew that.

(what else don't I know...)

viking767 21st Feb 2018 17:16


Originally Posted by Bonway (Post 10060199)
To elaborate (Boeing): After landing two sets of self-tests are run. The first set occurs once the flaps and speed brakes are retracted and the groundspeed is below 30kts. This set of tests requires 90 seconds to complete and that the hydraulics not be interrupted. If the engines are shut down before the flaps are retracted these tests will not be done. The second set of tests occur once the first set is complete and the hydraulics are depressurized (after shut down). These tests take approx. 70 seconds to complete. The F/D self-test takes place in the first set of tests and therefore is not done if the F/D's are switched off after landing.


So what happens if you do a visual approach with FD off? No self test after landing?

BraceBrace 21st Feb 2018 17:28


Originally Posted by Bonway (Post 10060199)
If the engines are shut down before the flaps are retracted these tests will not be done.

In more detail, what happens in situations with contaminated runway/taxiwa/apron where Boeing recommends not to retract the flaps after landing to allow for maintenance to check if no contaminants are present? (flap retraction might cause flap damage)

dubaigong 22nd Feb 2018 00:13

Whatever is the reason , if is was so important to keep the F/D on after landing it should have been clearly written.
I am flying Boeing for more than 25 years now and never had any problem with my F/D even when switching it off after landing or doing a raw data approach without it...
I must have been very Lucky then and by the way never seen anything about this in any of the Boeing manuals available to the pilots at least...

Odins Raven 22nd Feb 2018 07:48


Originally Posted by viking767 (Post 10060607)
So what happens if you do a visual approach with FD off? No self test after landing?

Most operators recommmend the FDs are recycled I.e. OFF then re-armed, on a visual manoeuvre. So the FDs would still be turned to OFF after landing in this case.

golfyankeesierra 22nd Feb 2018 08:39

FD switching Boeing
 
Bonway, I call BS on that, switching off F/D only removes bars from display. Self tests are run by FCC's.

Fuzuma 22nd Feb 2018 08:39


Originally Posted by Bonway
The info is from the various FCOMs, AFMs, and AMMs.

Anybody have any info on where I would be able to download the AMM for the 777 please, I am having no luck searching the web.....

Many thanks

Aiza 22nd Feb 2018 19:44

So what about an Airbus A320?


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