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donpizmeov 18th Jan 2018 10:08

Poor Gloie.

Jack330 18th Jan 2018 10:17

Looks like a death sentence for ek ! Who knows, there must be something behind

The Outlaw 18th Jan 2018 10:45

I wonder who they'll get tp fly them?

Joker11 18th Jan 2018 11:46

So no profit share this year?

Dixi 18th Jan 2018 12:22


Originally Posted by The Outlaw (Post 10023390)
I wonder who they'll get tp fly them?

Don't worry,The unmentionable has plenty of pilots ready to join

4runner 18th Jan 2018 12:29

Airbus didn’t do itself any favours by designing a shiny jet with one mission. It can’t do cargo. Maybe one day, they’ll reinforce the floors or an STC will be generated for this. In the meantime, it’s a very niche airplane.

flatfootsam 18th Jan 2018 13:13

The freighter was in development. The center section was manufacturered and all of the EIS work was more or less completed. It was the HGW version of the 380-900, the 1000 pax version, the -700 being the ULR version.

Fuselage loading was a complex problem. The early 380’s in development had no load allowance in the fdw class C cargo compartment due to load limitations;this was subsequently modified to a 2 g limit...miles off the CS25 requirements, but extrapolate that to the freighter loading issues with two decks and it was a nightmare in the making.

The ovoid fuselage, in conjunction with the floor loadings required resulted in unusual fuselage bending with the myriad of load requirements from UPS and FedEx, (SIA too from memory). A structures engineering problem with little or no leeway on weight increases with the circuitous catch 22 program management.

Can you fix it?
Yes
What’s the solution?
Reinforcing the structure
Does that mean more weight?
Yes
You can’t increase the weight (because my annual bonus is tied to the weight reduction program). Find another way
There is no other way
Excuse me...sound of head being buried in the sand

The 6 tonnes of titanium required for the F also contributed to the death knell of the variant as a huge amount of the global supply was purchased in advance by the Seattle aeroplane company and supply lines were looking dodgy.

A retrofit F version, a P to F conversion is possible, but for low load density, high volume cargo. The 380’s parked up are only half lifed, someone will come up with a bright idea...horse movers, flying hospitals, flying shuttles in China...

recceguy 19th Jan 2018 17:50

Regarding this EK order, the disappointment of some is such a pleasure to read... At this level, the hate of any Airbus product is pathologic !

Airbus Beats Boeing in 2017 Orders With Late Selling Spree | Fortune


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