I suspect the interest in Korean from EK pilots will not be diminishing soon. Despite all the challenges that go hand in hand with working for Korean, the fact that there seems to be steady interest, means that the perceived positives still outweigh the perceived negatives for many at EK.

Any 737 skippers at Korean that could possibly pm me a roster for the last month or two please.
many thanks

Present 737 captains are being offered left seat in the 777, i know 2 gents who recently made the transition.

you don't want the 737 at Kal. A lot of challenging China and Korea domestic, 4 sector days

You mean a NTR DEC onto 777?

They were KE foreign 737 captains who transitioned to the 777....

as to their previous types and times I cannot say. I reckon they've been bonded somehow and/or purchased a 777 type as any NTR would ....

but it is being offered presently

You also need to be over the age of 40 to fly a widebody at Korean. They will not transition anyone unless they're 40 or older.

No Change...
 

Actually then, nothing much has changed for the last 10 years. Most guys were stuck on the 737 and couldn't move across unless they went in to the audit department. Very few came across to the 777.
Don't have any misconceptions though, all of the fleets work hard. They get their money out of you. Also, the hotels were never great. However; I always got my days off, always flew business class, to and from base and never had my schedule changed. There was one exception and that was when a Captain fell ill, they called me if I would come in on my days off to cover the flight. I showed up, completed the flight back to ICN. They flew me home the next day and gave me an extra 9 days off!!!
I can't say too much about the Chinese contracts however; KAL was the best gig going. Always treated fair and well respected. Their equipment is THE best maintained in the world. It is a good operation.

Correct, not much has greatly changed, including the salary, (there has been NO inflation increases for many years). One significant change is that the 330 is NOT a possibility to non 330 experienced pilots unlike before - they have 321s coming and need to crew them instead.

As we know, no airline is perfect but I have several friends at Korean and they are very happy with the roasters and the people they work with.

Treat other people as you wish to be treated, it normally works.

Upgrade possibilities
 

Guys,
I'm an FO with 800 hrs on the 737NG, 1000 hrs jet total and 1250 hrs TT, I just fulfill the requirements for an FO position at KAL.

Do you recommend it for a western FO, or is it really like I hear: FOs only do the radios, must ask the captain's permission even for ordering a coffee from the cabin?

Do they upgrade foreigner FOs? How long does it take?

Thank You guys.

me179,

You are 1000 hours off even being eligible to apply.

According to https://rishworthaviation.com/pilot-...rviews-ref1831

I am :-)

Some ex EK guys have pulled the plug and are returning to EK! Never heard of any ex Korean guys leaving EK to return to Korean.

The trouble is that being an expat at Korean and being an expat at EK are two totally different jobs but I suspect some think that since they have adapted to the cultural melting pot that is EK, then they will easily adapt to Korean. This is sadly never going to be the case for all.

Having been an ex-pat at other companies prior to EK and where I was the minority in amongst a single majority based on nationality, I can see how some will simply just not be able to adapt to working at Korean, with all the nuances that go hand in hand with working there.

The last KAL joke