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Short Approach? 21st Oct 2017 11:30

EK loadfactor..
 
fleetwide of 64%. Can than really be accurate and if so whats going on? :sad:

SOPS 21st Oct 2017 13:25

The beginning of the end?

ChocksOn 21st Oct 2017 13:44

That's what happens when your ego is bigger than your ability to deliver...."The 787 is too small for our operation"....morons

flareflyer 21st Oct 2017 14:40

And where does that 64 come from?

Joker11 21st Oct 2017 16:41

I was trying to get to FRA a week ago. FULL! I didn't risk it. Chock-o block full. But on a postive note. DXB is lovely in the winter.

atakacs 21st Oct 2017 17:28

I don't know where this is comming from but business class is often sold out on many destinations I fly... Much to my consternation

Jack D 21st Oct 2017 19:07

Not sure if the load factor is that important, what’s the yield ? As long as EK keeps going the possibilities for profiting from “ the system “ is upheld for certain individuals , a bit like a casino. .

nolimitholdem 22nd Oct 2017 01:03

EK is coming up as the cheapest option for me quite often on the ticket broker sites, which never used to happen. (Asia/Europe sectors). Would seem to indicate softer demand/loads. Seasonal perhaps?

Odins Raven 22nd Oct 2017 08:34


Originally Posted by nolimitholdem (Post 9932605)
EK is coming up as the cheapest option for me quite often on the ticket broker sites, which never used to happen. (Asia/Europe sectors). Would seem to indicate softer demand/loads. Seasonal perhaps?

Well, there was always going to be a drop in the traditional higher-yielding markets from places like the UK. The economic uncertainty is making people tighten their purse strings a little. Friends over here (UK) are still talking about travelling and holidays, just being a bit cautious. I’ll guess we’ll see what happens if and when the Brexit dust has settled... could be a while!

sealear 23rd Oct 2017 10:55

Got a link to that 64 number or what?

JAYTO 23rd Oct 2017 11:40

Source
 
This link is the only source I can find regarding the above quoted 64%


http://www.pprune.org/middle-east/600940-ek-loadfactor.html


J.

EchoKilla 23rd Oct 2017 11:44


Originally Posted by sealear (Post 9933794)
Got a link to that 64 number or what?

Lfs were in the 60-72% range all of the past week on the daily ops report so ya - again really depends on the yield.

Mr Mac 23rd Oct 2017 12:55

As others have said I have found on my routes with you Guys and Girls that Business has been quite full over the last couple of months, and have had problems getting seat (5 sectors flown) especially on legs in or out of Man. Do not know what other cabins are like but crew said they were quite full when asked.


Regards
Mr Mac

PositiveRate876 23rd Oct 2017 18:08

Load factor alone is not an indication of profitability.


The aircraft can be full of low yield pax and lose money. Or it can be half empty but with high yield fares and make money.

777boyo 24th Oct 2017 00:39

And is it "load factor", or "seat factor"? There's a difference.
7B

fatbus 24th Oct 2017 06:56

What is seat factor? thanks

777boyo 24th Oct 2017 08:51

fatbus,

Maybe I'm being pedantic - when I worked on that side of the business, "Seat Factor" = Passenger Load Factor.
"Load Factor" = a composite measure taking into account all revenue generating "things" carried - pax/freight/mail etc (usually tonne based).
I'll concede that Load factor and Passenger Load Factor seem to be often used inter-changeably!
Cheers,
7B

fatbus 24th Oct 2017 09:07

That's kind of what gathered , but thanks for that.

puff m'call 24th Oct 2017 17:36

One of the LHR's the other day was almost empty, why send the fat bus?

Schnowzer 25th Oct 2017 04:58


Originally Posted by puff m'call (Post 9935422)
One of the LHR's the other day was almost empty, why send the fat bus?

H
Coz you guys on the Boeing had it for years😜

In the traditionally slow period now, same May/June. Hopefully it will ramp up before Xmas.

Sheikh Your Bootie 25th Oct 2017 12:11

Every 380 was full out pf LHR a few days back, and for days after Puff. Maybe one way traffic, holidays. Not many upgrades either for pax available.

SyB :zzz:

GEB74 25th Oct 2017 12:34

My experience as regular SLF is that loads have become weaker this last year.
Yes, travel at start / end of a week, school / college holiday period and the flights are maxed out.
But, last weeks example (flown midweek to midweek)
22 out of MAN, J less than half full (yes it's the weakest of the 3 MAN flights)
538 to AMD - predictably totally full
515 Ex DEL - combined J&F load on the bus max 25 out of possible 50
19 back to MAN - J about 65% full and the rearmost upstairs economy section blocked out empty.
The irony being that the only one of these flights operating full was that being flown on EK's smallest aircraft, a 200LR..................

Fuel-Off 25th Oct 2017 12:43

Loads to anywhere in Australia have been oversold for the past month or so...

Fuel-Off :ok:

White Knight 26th Oct 2017 06:11

For the hard of understanding: A scheduled operation has peaks and troughs - as Schnowzer has pointed out!

This is why, if you don't have children of school age, it's a good time now to take leave as there's less stress with the standby travel!


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