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Talparc 7th Jun 2017 16:51

Tough times for EK
 
https://www.ft.com/content/757df8b0-...7-59b4dd6296b8

ExDubai 7th Jun 2017 17:06


Originally Posted by Desert snake (Post 9795657)
Sadly I'm not an FT subscriber but I can guess what it says.

I'm surprised EK didn't wait til this week to announce the figures

STC says that he's ready to park AC when needed.....

Talparc 7th Jun 2017 19:24

Quote from the above FT Article:
Always one more cup of coffee for ‘Costa Brigade’
Emirates staff derisively talk about the airline’s middle managers as the “Costa Brigade”, referring to those who hang out at the large coffee shop on the ground floor of the group’s headquarters, writes Simeon Kerr.
The swelling ranks of middle management have for several years been undermining staff morale as the airline, which was founded in 1985, has expanded.
Despite criticism that the group has become bloated, airline staff numbers are still rising. According to the 2016-17 annual report, airline workers increased 7.5 per cent to 51,628, including an 8.6 per cent increase in non- operational staff.
Insiders say this growth has come despite redundancies in departments such as IT and human resources.
Making cost cuts and rationalising is, therefore, the obvious way forward for the group, say analysts.
An internal memo at the group said one of the costs that management will focus on is those of employees, the airline’s second largest expense after fuel.
The memo said there would be “no pay review” and a policy of only filling vacancies “if absolutely critical”.
Employees say the gradual squeezing of benefits and perks and overworking hours has eroded Emirates’ reputation as an employer of choice among the airline industry.
Sir Tim Clark, the airline’s president, rejects such claims, saying the increase in staff levels reflects a content culture with a minority of moaners.
But some members of staff are still unhappy. “It just isn’t as attractive as it used to be,” said one.

natops 7th Jun 2017 19:46

Stc
 
Minority of moaners..... he doesnt have any idea about the feelings of his employees, does he?

Panther 88 7th Jun 2017 20:06

With all due respect to him, he doesn't have any idea about the feelings of his front line employees. He doesn't engage, simple as that. If one has ever had him on the aircraft, he will grace you with a nod and close the suite when able. And remember it's "the management team I put together" that has made this airline what it is today. Perhaps that statement is now coming back to bite him in the...............

Kamelchaser 8th Jun 2017 01:16

“We’ve just got to tough it out,” says Sir Tim, the airline’s president and founding member of the carrier in 1985. “The business model is essentially a sound business model, but at the moment it’s challenged. For no reasons of our own, purely from geopolitical and socio-economic reasons.”

Nope...certainly nothing to do with massive over capacity, bloated staff numbers, arrogance etc etc. EK management have never put a foot wrong. It's everybody else's fault. I recall the head of Nokia say the same just a few years ago. Nokia who?

halas 8th Jun 2017 02:01

Had a giggle at this comment on the article: "He (STC) is also 68 this year. After 35 years at Emirates he should exit with dignity and success not following the Robert Mugabe model although it is hard to resist the personality cult!"

halas

glofish 8th Jun 2017 03:29

For a personality cult you need:

- a feudalistic system that can nicely breed on your politics, or business ponzi scheme model
- a symbol of grandeur whatever it costs and whatever number of slaves it takes to build it with hard and futile work
- a lot of simple-minded followers who unthinkingly worship your symbol, your business model and by that finally your person

It works fine here:

for 1: the dish-dash and abaya fraction
for 2: 140+ of the biggest aircraft
for 3: the WKs et al

A6EchoEchoUniform 8th Jun 2017 04:16


Originally Posted by Yorkshire_Pudding (Post 9795782)
Just google "emirates president pledges to tough it out as airline struggles" for free read.

13 aircraft already parked.

Where are you hearing 13 aircraft parked? Have the reg's?

A6EchoEchoUniform 8th Jun 2017 04:36


Originally Posted by A6EchoEchoUniform (Post 9796114)
Where are you hearing 13 aircraft parked? Have the reg's?


I read the article after posting. It doesn't say 13 parked. It says 13 aircraft that were serving the USA market no longer are, and if homes aren't found for them (aircraft sales, or other routes) then STC would park them.

A6EchoEchoUniform 8th Jun 2017 04:56


Originally Posted by Desert snake (Post 9796128)
So, you think we're gonna open 13 new routes?

Depending on the routes, one city pair may take up to 3 airplanes, even for once daily service.

I've heard that a second NRT flight is close to being announced. Also understand that EK408 switches to an A380 in September.

Most likely, I believe, is expansion of the A380 routes and reduction of the B777 routes.

From a profit standpoint, nothing beats a full A380. I happened to have been flying to the US this week, and must say, there wasn't one empty seat. And the US is our slow market!

luvly jubbly 8th Jun 2017 04:58


Originally Posted by A6EchoEchoUniform (Post 9796135)
I happened to have been flying to the US this week, and must say, there wasn't one empty seat. And the US is our slow market!

Lol. Everyone evacuating the Middle East?

P7xkk 8th Jun 2017 05:04


Originally Posted by A6EchoEchoUniform (Post 9796124)
I read the article after posting. It doesn't say 13 parked. It says 13 aircraft that were serving the USA market no longer are, and if homes aren't found for them (aircraft sales, or other routes) then STC would park them.

Err, if you go down to DWC today, you will surely see a surprise.............

crewmeal 8th Jun 2017 05:23

If things are that bad why think about 20 more A380's?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...80-superjumbos

keepitrealok 8th Jun 2017 06:42


I happened to have been flying to the US this week, and must say, there wasn't one empty seat. And the US is our slow market!
And I flew there last week and the jet was less than half full both ways, and that was after cancelling the second service to the city. :rolleyes:

Joker11 8th Jun 2017 10:41

Have they combined some U.S flights? Cancelling one and booking pax on the next flight?

Officer Kite 8th Jun 2017 11:05


Originally Posted by A6EchoEchoUniform (Post 9796135)
I happened to have been flying to the US this week, and must say, there wasn't one empty seat. And the US is our slow market!

Was that on Microsoft FSX or prepar3D?

notapilot15 8th Jun 2017 13:35

Never thought FT would use such language.

Looks like Bloomberg piece is botched attempt to put a positive spin by local media desk, old habits die hard.

White Knight 8th Jun 2017 14:11


Originally Posted by glofish
For a personality cult you need:

- a feudalistic system that can nicely breed on your politics, or business ponzi scheme model
- a symbol of grandeur whatever it costs and whatever number of slaves it takes to build it with hard and futile work
- a lot of simple-minded followers who unthinkingly worship your symbol, your business model and by that finally your person

It works fine here:

for 1: the dish-dash and abaya fraction
for 2: 140+ of the biggest aircraft
for 3: the WKs et al

Your shoulder chips just grow bigger glo... Did you used to post on here as mensaboy or sittingidly by any chance? They were always keen to tell me about myself too🙄🙄

donpizmeov 8th Jun 2017 15:23

Oficer Kite,

Have you got a flying job yet? Perhaps you should show some respect to those that do. No wonder you couldn't get on with easy, aer Lingus or other people.

Now double away and back to the wannabe site.


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