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bigdaviet: The Indian layovers are a big improvement IMO. If losing another nights sleep and a day off compared to just doing a nasty T/A is an improvement then I need some of your coolaid. Toughen the fu<k up princess. Gimme the days off. |
It is never enough.......they will never stop to surprise us.......now in case of recency renewal we also have to pay the sim.......
I am truly speechless..... |
When ever are we even getting, even marginally, close to being out of recency??
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EK really know how to treat their pilots! The latest weekly is a perfect example.
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Yep, it's a user pay society over here at EK.
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Shades of Ryanair?
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Originally Posted by felixthecat
(Post 9738839)
When ever are we even getting, even marginally, close to being out of recency??
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Not going to be many trying to fly the freighter for long ;) ;) ;)
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The best thing this place does is lie to itself.
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Originally Posted by Visual Procedures
(Post 9738138)
Indian layovers a roster improvement?
If losing another nights sleep and a day off compared to just doing a nasty T/A is an improvement then I need some of your coolaid. Toughen the fu<k up princess. Gimme the days off. |
Originally Posted by BLOGGSON
(Post 9739141)
What a mindlessly and unnecessarily rude reply.
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Sadly, prolonged fatigue does tend to turn one into an asshole. When it starts to affect family and friends then you have to make the choice to accept it or leave. Many are leaving now, some with no job to go to. AAR has the final say in rostering and has made no attempt to hide the fact that he is actively involved in making sure pilots are pushed to the limit, and in many cases, beyond the limit.
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When I first joined EK, I heard pilots talking about going sick so they could attend things such as school events with their children, birthdays etc. My opinion then was that they were very selfish and crapping on their colleagues.
Whilst I still think that it is crapping on your colleagues, I am much more sympathetic to those that do manage their roster by going sick. And I also understand the reluctance by many to call sick fatigued. I have no idea how much lower we can go but I do feel that we are now in the end game. |
Love the latest missive from the Bouncy Castle, it looks to be straight out of the Idiots guide on how not to manage your employees.
So, in the vague chance one of you lazy pilots manages to compromise recency, by going sick or having a holiday, our IT and rostering staff/systems are so inept that it will be your responsibility and fault. If that happens you will have to pay for the simulator. I honestly think there is a manager somewhere in the BC who is deliberately trying to chase pilots away, otherwise how else can you explain the total idiocy of that? |
Ruserious,
I agree. I think that plan started when they forced A330 captains back to the right seat. They want guys to leave on their own rather than announce face-losing redundancies when the big downsizing starts. Toolow |
obviously some kind of recency issues happened lately so thats why the new shafting will take place.
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Love the latest missive from the Bouncy Castle, it looks to be straight out of the Idiots guide on how not to manage your employees. So, in the vague chance one of you lazy pilots manages to compromise recency, by going sick or having a holiday, our IT and rostering staff/systems are so inept that it will be your responsibility and fault. If that happens you will have to pay for the simulator. I honestly think there is a manager somewhere in the BC who is deliberately trying to chase pilots away, otherwise how else can you explain the total idiocy of that? The more likely reason is that someone has had a recency issue...and rather than have people held too account, its much easier to blame lazy pilots. |
Wow, is it the millennial generation mainly on here these days.
So many of these posts are about Me, Myself & I. I would be ashamed if my kiddies got this demented on here. A good weekend to all and go enjoy some grape juice or otherwise. J |
... Said the EK manger
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Originally Posted by jack schidt
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A good weekend to all and go enjoy some grape juice or otherwise. J |
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