New President soon?
From the National:
The Emirates president Tim Clark said the world’s biggest long-haul airline faces a "gathering storm" as a new generation of low-cost carriers targets the intercontinental routes around which it has built its business. Dubai’s Emirates sees threats across all markets from rivals spanning Norwegian Air Shuttle to the Scoot unit of Singapore Airlines, Mr Clark said on Thursday in Berlin. The carrier may also need to establish a short-haul fleet as Middle East nations that it has struggled to serve begin to open up, he said, while cautioning that the decision will be one for his successor. "The dynamic is changing in the Middle East with regards to access to new markets," the executive said in Berlin, where travel industry executives have gathered for the ITB tourism fair. "Our business model was set in the late 1980s, when access was denied to us by many places in the region." Mr Clark, who has run Emirates since 2003, said that while he sees no immediate switch away from an all-wide-body fleet, "others coming behind may take a different view". The 67-year-old said it would be "remiss" of him to commit to a particular plan and that "business doesn’t stop when I go", giving the strongest hint yet that his time in charge may be drawing to a close. Emirates has established itself as the world’s biggest carrier serving international routes by transforming Dubai into a transfer hub for flights between the Americas and Europe and Asia-Pacific, the Middle East and Africa. While Norwegian Air has focused its long-haul efforts chiefly on transatlantic flights, it also has a hub in Bangkok, while Scoot plans to begin flights to Europe this summer starting with a service to Athens – a city that is also part of the Emirates network – in June. "At the back end of ‘90s I did a paper on long-haul low-cost," Mr Clark said. "Everyone laughed at me, but what I predicted then has finally started to happen. We have players in all arenas – Europe, America, Asia. It’s a gathering storm." The executive said that the situation is being complicated by the response of established network carriers such as the British Airways owner IAG, which plans to start lower-cost flights using Airbus A330 wide-body jets, initially out of Barcelona, and Lufthansa’s Eurowings arm, which is expanding as fast in long-haul routes as it is on intra-European services. After a "few years of instabil*ity," increasing demand for intercontinental services should be sufficient to support much of the expansion "as the pie grows," Mr Clark said. Low-cost carriers specialising in short-haul routes are also likely to play a bigger role in linking up with long-haul operators, he said. Ryanair already plans to provide feeder traffic to Norwegian, and has indicated that it might be open to connecting with Gulf operators. Political and socioeconomic upheavals have created an environment in which running a global airline has become increasingly challenging, Mr Clark said. While a decade ago a major carrier might have faced disruptive events a couple of times a year, "the pace of change is accelerating and quite destabilising". The US president Donald Trump’s overnight ban on travel by people from seven mainly Muslim nations to the United States led to an unprecedented 35 per cent decline in the pace of bookings, Mr Clark said, with demand remaining lower. Given its reach, Emirates is a major carrier for a clutch of neigh*bouring nations lacking their own long-haul networks, some of which are affected by the moratorium. Short-haul planes are becoming a more attractive to Emirates as Boeing’s 737 Max model and the Airbus A320neo series offer significant gains in fuel efficiency and increase their flying range, Mr Clark said, adding that the jets would be an option for serving a "bigger, more robust" Middle East market. The near 250-plane Emirates fleet currently consists solely of Boeing 777 jets and Airbus A380 superjumbos ill-suited to serving shorter routes, with the carrier ranking as the biggest operator of both types. "I’m quite sure that management behind me will consider all options," Mr Clark said. * Reuters [email protected] |
When Timmy goes, stop the rest of the new 380's coming in plse. , ASAP.
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Some people have no clue how business is run in this region of the world all they care is about the A 380 ....:cool:
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What's wrong with the 380s? The neighbors can't even seem to get the tuktuk operation right
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Some people have no clue how business is run in this region of the world all they care is about the A 380 .... That's why we have the Mikado game: Who moves first, is the loser. CM can't fight this stupid mentality. Maybe, just maybe the departure of TC can untie the gordic knot. It's the only departure where some merit can be given and at the same time a new start can be proclaimed. A new start will definitely see a reduction of the 380s, I'll take any bet, so natops seems to have more clues than THRCLB. |
Originally Posted by natops
(Post 9701954)
When Timmy goes, stop the rest of the new 380's coming in plse. , ASAP.
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As long as Qatar and the airline down the road have the 380, Emirates will have them.
As long as Emirates has them, the airline down the road and Qatar will have them. Welcome to the Middle East. |
Originally Posted by BigGeordie
(Post 9702581)
As long as Qatar and the airline down the road have the 380, Emirates will have them.
As long as Emirates has them, the airline down the road and Qatar will have them. Welcome to the Middle East. It's perfect for some out our routes (London etc). However I do think it's the wrong aircraft for ULR, and I do think EK have way way too many on order. In fact it is the crazy order book, not the aircraft that most take issue with. Most tractor drivers are not anti-a380. It's just a machine. A fleet of about 50 would be perfect for EK. Btw it doesn't take an MA from Harvard to see we have way too many B777s also, and that a mid-sized aircraft is desperately needed. But how to do without loss of face??? Oh well, at least "we just do it better".. |
Quite right Plane and Simple. They are both the right aircraft for EK to have in the fleet - but there are just far tooo many of them. You need a smaller (single aisle?) aircraft to plough some of the thinner routes when pax numbers just don't justify the big birds, or for seasonal variation etc etc.
Surely at the end of the day the biggest victory you can have over your competition is to be the richest not just the biggest! |
I quite like the A380. Even if it does look like it has Down's Syndrome. Do you always hold people with disabilities in such contempt? And before you try to explain yourself, you are speaking in the negative. I really hope no child nor relative of yours has the misfortune of having a disability and having to suffer your prejudice...let alone having you display your ignorance on a public forum. Arse... Do you speak your thoughts in public, or is this strictly behind a keyboard? |
Plane and Simple, you're downright disgusting. I am very embarrassed that I have colleagues like you.
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PLANE AND SIMPLETON,
You really are. It is not that you are disparaging the A380, its your use of a comparison of a machine to people who are innocent and beautiful and have enough tribulations in the world putting up with remarks from f..k sticks like yourself. Please remove your post. |
Sticks & stones, Captain Rex
Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc
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Please remove your post.
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As someone looking closely at a move to EK, threads like this are both invaluable and dissapointing.
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A very poorly worded comment, we are not all the same, so don't take it that way.
However a move from EZY to here, think long and hard, not 100% of everything here is true but if even 50% is (and way more than that is!) stay in EZY. Many many guys are leaving and moving back, the main factor being quality of life and time at home with the family. Time off is a rarity these days and it is extremely hard on families now, quality of life has taken a nose dive the last few years and continuing the downward slope. |
Back on topic. TC in this interview with Reuters basically hinted at some unpleasant truths that should be revealed in the annual report soon. Of course those truths will be downplayed and wrapped in Middle East camel sh*t.
Growth story finished - losing money - wrong fleet mix and order books - TC leaving to make room for change. Impact of real world on alternate truth plans of narcissists. Phallic tower story continued. |
Phallic Towers, 80m wide 'canal', multiple 'Disneyland' style theme parks, 2 international airports..... another 'world's highest tower' on the way -seems no lessons have been learned from 2008. EK is just a part of DXB's problems.
When Sheikh Rashid said "Build it and they will come" I doubt he had in mind some of the dafter current developments. |
My dissapointmemt is directed towards the narrow body rumours. With 10K+ hours the majority of which is on narrow body I imagine a force draught on to the mini bus or tractor would be in my future in the sandpit if I go that way. Rosters killing us here, rosters killing you there, what to do?
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I just love the advert at the bottom of this post. A dating site to meet Arab women....
Just another reason for me to stay! |
Ha - in my browser in the UK it's an Emirates pilot recruitment ad
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I actually am glad I am on the tractor rather than the 380 at present, for the simple reason that the tractor seems to open up more doors for moving on from EK to another widebody.
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Originally Posted by Emma Royds
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I actually am glad I am on the tractor rather than the 380 at present, for the simple reason that the tractor seems to open up more doors for moving on from EK to another widebody.
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Bad gamble.
There will be some of your colleagues on the moribund device who have applied for A330 jobs. Ask them how that worked out. |
I know two 380 pilots ex 330 get jobs on 330. No problems. One guys last flight on the 330 was 8 years ago. You still have to pass the sim assessment.
I also know of a 380 pilot who failed the KAL 380 sim assessment as well as a 777 pilot at KAL and 2 at CSA all for sim assessment not medical. That's a whole other story. |
Fly Dubai is just across the airfield and a sister company of EK anyway. Why not just code share with them and job done...... We need to focus on the fleet we have, a long haul fleet and use it for exactly that. I often undo screw's with a knife....I wish I had bought a screwdriver years ago, would have saved lots of knives ;)
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Slightly off topic but in the interests of accuracy.....
It is illegal under UAE law to hold a full time job aged over 65 UAE authorities were quite happy to issue me a work permit, residence visa and replacement Emirates ID when I was 66. But in any case as a government entity, EK need not comply with local laws. That's how they can push staff to take unpaid leave - whereas in the private sector only the employee may request unpaid leave. The company may not lead the process. |
Originally Posted by Uplink
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I just love the advert at the bottom of this post. A dating site to meet Arab women....
Just another reason for me to stay! |
I get Russian and Ukrainian ladies... :)
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That can't be right? I'm always looking up 380 stuff and mine is showing p*nis enlargement sites.
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"That can't be right? I'm always looking up 380 stuff and mine is showing p*nis enlargement sites."
That's because it's a prerequisite on the fleet, there are even PAMs for it during initial training. |
Priceless! :E
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