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KippaLippa 24th Jan 2017 17:26

CM left? leaving?
 
I read on several posts that CM is leaving.
on others that he left already....
anything more than assumptions?

Regards

harry the cod 24th Jan 2017 19:24

Kippa

If you see a Company publication stating he's left....he's left. Until then, assume he's still here. Easy.

I wonder if surgeons, doctors, dentists and engineers ask the same pointless questions that so many pilots seem to?

We do our profession no favours at times. Seriously! :ugh:

Harry

KippaLippa 24th Jan 2017 20:22

hello Harry,
I thought this forum was about rumours,
I must have been mistaken

jack schidt 25th Jan 2017 07:19

C M had to travel to Germany for a family issue, very personal and very sad.

He is still very much at Emirates. The next person of high rank to be leaving will most likely be Sir Tim, although this is not officially announced just yet.

C M is very much a man of principle it appears and seems to be able to detect where the rot is most embedded in the company. With a management to pilot communication statistic of well below 10%, he clearly sees that it's not the pilots who need changing/briefing here. C M is very open to communication and is willing to take appointments to discuss any important issues you might have been pondering.

J

The Outlaw 25th Jan 2017 07:38

As usual, I think we can disregard the rantings of HTC, he must by pining for the office again! It is a rumor forum after all and I thought it was a valid post as I was wondering the same.

CM is still on the 4th floor and will see pilots if you make an appointment and he does answer emails within a day, that from personal experience. From my observations he is a well spoken and respectful individual.

Harry, the war ended over 71 years ago...get over it!

THRCLB 25th Jan 2017 12:09

Dn know why people in Ek have high hopes (for improvement!! ) from CM ... I don't remember any good thing happened after any management change in the past ,, once he done with mangers he will have time for us lator , carful what u wish for

donpizmeov 25th Jan 2017 13:00

Too right THRCLB. He is a bean counter. Repeat after me...all bean counters are bad. He is not going to improve the pilot job here. He acts towards bigger bottom line only.

springbok449 25th Jan 2017 14:39

Ask any person at Sabena or Aer Lingus about CM and see if they have any good memories of him and pilots T&Cs...

DCS99 25th Jan 2017 14:48


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 9653236)
Too right THRCLB. He is a bean counter. Repeat after me...all bean counters are bad. He is not going to improve the pilot job here. He acts towards bigger bottom line only.

Of course he needs to improve the bottom line.
But that doesn't necessarily have to be at the detriment of the staff.

Why not go and see him? Nothing to lose. He won't issue a warning letter! Press 4 in the Northern lift.
I wasn't the first and won't be the last.

notapilot15 25th Jan 2017 17:38

If recent fifth freedom routes and pod of whales are any indication either CM is gone (or) mafia have been given second chance to prove themselves. Obviously they are not capable of proving themselves. Also...

Thou shalt not retire until last Trent inhales sand.

Oldaircrew 26th Jan 2017 01:31

Jumpinggoat449,

The difference between us and Sabina and AL is that we have nothing left to give. They never did 100 hour months and had proper contracts that he could reduce whilst making them work more.

He might be able to reduce our package but that might bite him on the backside. He sure as hell cant make you work harder.

donpizmeov 26th Jan 2017 02:24

You had to say that last bit out loud didn't you. Every time we think it can't get worse, or they can't work us harder, they somehow pull another rabbit out of the hat.

I think CMs recommendations don't happen until Apr 1. That being the new financial year. So a lot of people that have had to reapply for their jobs now, are expected to do so again in any new restructuring.

jack schidt 26th Jan 2017 09:32

Just a thought. If Timmy goes as well then there might be 2 new positions that could be filled by 1 (CM?) and both airlines work independently but without stepping on the others toes and stealing revenue?

It's coincidental that the fat is being trimmed from both companies at a time that both expat heads are heading out (most likely).

J

Oldaircrew 27th Jan 2017 03:52

"You had to say that last bit out loud didn't you".

Hahaha, you're probably right Don. These muppets never cease to amaze me when it comes to innovative ways of shafting us. I shouldn't try and test them.

Dannyboy87 14th Feb 2017 03:53

Rumours currently going around at EK :

1- CM resigned
2- One of CM's recommendation was to reduce the number of habibis or increase their productivity.
3- CM fired two habibis at the HQ
4- CM got an offer from EY for JH's position.
5- many of CM's recommendations got shot down by management.
6- CM was hired to replace STC but management doesn't seem quite impressed.

donpizmeov 14th Feb 2017 15:55

Rumours I hear normally are something about where the best happy hour is. Bit weird to have an interest about a bean counter.

clear to land 15th Feb 2017 09:18

Now your talking don-please advise where the 'hot spots' are now? :}

Craggenmore 15th Feb 2017 10:06

£2.30 a pint of Stella at the Marriot LHR.

That has to be one of the cheapest pints in the UK..!

Jack D 15th Feb 2017 17:34

Cheap yes ... but it is Stella after all ... most Belgians don't touch it !

Mango 15th Feb 2017 19:45

The hangover the next day is diabolical

donpizmeov 15th Feb 2017 19:59

It ain't called wife beater for nothing.

halas 15th Feb 2017 22:57

Word is CM has moved office to the 9th floor.
Since every floor below is a filter, approachability seems lost.
Must be STC grooming him for baton pass.

halas

ExDubai 6th Apr 2017 07:24

https://global.handelsblatt.com/comp...-etihad-742918
Mhm........ a lot of smoke

The Outlaw 6th Apr 2017 07:49

If the Handelsblatt article has even a semblance of truth combined with strong suggestions that STC will step down this year then I would suggest one of the following:

1. EK is finished. CM and STC jump ship before the "water floods all the compartments", (you may recall there was no need for lifeboats because HMS EK is unsinkable by "just doing things better"). No CEO will want to be at the wheel when she goes "down by the bow".

2. CM heads up an undisclosed air service based in the nations capital, merges another airline based to the north (with a low cost division), and creates one large, lean and mean contender for air traffic in this region.

In this region, he who has the most wins.

Jack D 6th Apr 2017 08:30

Outlaw .
I think you may be onto something there !

Easy Peasy 8th Apr 2017 23:24


Originally Posted by harry the cod (Post 9652427)
Kippa

If you see a Company publication stating he's left....he's left. Until then, assume he's still here. Easy.

I wonder if surgeons, doctors, dentists and engineers ask the same pointless questions that so many pilots seem to?

We do our profession no favours at times. Seriously! :ugh:

Harry

.... plumbers, truck drivers, taxi drivers and bus drivers might....

Joker11 9th Apr 2017 13:46


Originally Posted by Easy Peasy (Post 9733611)
.... plumbers, truck drivers, taxi drivers and bus drivers might....

Might have more job satisfaction.

TangoUniform 9th Apr 2017 14:31


Originally Posted by Joker11 (Post 9734075)
Might have more job satisfaction.

They do have better retirement plans.:ok:

CaptainChipotle 9th Apr 2017 14:49


Originally Posted by Joker11 (Post 9734075)
Might have more job satisfaction.

You'll live longer too!

JAARule 10th Apr 2017 06:24

Latest rumour (apart from him leaving) is he had a plan amongst the trimming down of numbers to reorganise the staff centre into a 24 hour operation with a skeleton staff in order to better cater for the thousands of employees who work a 24 hour operation themselves - pilots, c/crew, maintenance, dispatch etc etc. When it suits, crew could conduct their dealings before or after a duty instead of making the trek in on a day off to sit in a queue for hours.


the fat is being trimmed from both companies
They ran out of fat to trim in flight operations years ago. They've been cutting away muscle ever since. Plenty of fat in the office or in the case of habibis not necessarily fat OR muscle... more like a growth that the body carries.

gearlever 8th May 2017 15:00

Austrian Aviation about C.M.

1. Juli: Hogan muss Etihad verlassen - Austrian Aviation Net

The Outlaw 8th May 2017 15:38


Originally Posted by gearlever (Post 9764697)

ROUGH TRANSLATION:

James Hogan, who is being criticized, will leave the company on 1 July 2017. He is replaced by Ray Gammell, who currently holds the position of Chief People & Performance Officer. This was announced by the airline from Abu Dhabi.

A spokeswoman for the company also stated that Austrian Aviation Net is "a step closer to the decision." The departure of James Hogan was a joint decision with the board of directors of Etihad Airways. "

James Hogan pursued a purchasing policy as an Etihad company chief, with the Gulf Carrier taking part in the most heavily deficient airlines such as Air Berlin, Alitalia, Air Serbia (formerly JAT), Jet Airways, Air Seychelles and Darwin Airline. In particular Air Berlin and Alitalia cost a lot of money because of horrendous losses and were only partly saved by means of Etihad grants, in each case in a three-digit million-euro-million-height, before grounding.

The position of the CFO is also being filled, as the Golfcarrier explained. James Rigney is replaced and replaced by Ricky Thirion. However, the position of the Group CEO is not to be permanently covered by Ray Gammell, because Etihad Airways is looking for a successor. Christoph Müller, formerly Aer Lingus and Malaysia Airlines, has acted in the rumors.

luvly jubbly 8th May 2017 17:42

Etihad Aviation announces leadership change; new CEO to take charge - Emirates 24|7

The word interim is being used for a reason best known to themselves.


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