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A6EchoEchoUniform 4th Jan 2017 03:29

EK Roster problem
 
My January A380 Command roster is at 104 hours over 21 days. I am being told that due to "increased demand" (of what??) that we can now be asked to fly up to 112 hours during 3 months of the year, as long as there's a one month break between rosters of over 100 hours.

When did this policy change, and was anyone notified of it? I certainly was not.

brewman187 4th Jan 2017 16:29

My January A380 Command roster. Wow, I bet you're a pleasure to fly with skipper.

Boeing 777 Air Lord

Kamelchaser 4th Jan 2017 16:37

That didn't take long did it?

Whairdhugo 4th Jan 2017 16:56

Some are a pleasure to fly with indeed. I learn interesting facts like deicing won't be required in dxb during the departure brief. Other pleasures include an arrival brief into cdg consisting of a separate approach to all four possible runways and bonus information like full lost comms procedures "just in case". 21 minutes of a c-two-f gem. 😴

CaptainChipotle 4th Jan 2017 17:33


Originally Posted by A6EchoEchoUniform (Post 9629126)
My January A380 Command roster is at 104 hours over 21 days. I am being told that due to "increased demand" (of what??) that we can now be asked to fly up to 112 hours during 3 months of the year, as long as there's a one month break between rosters of over 100 hours.

When did this policy change, and was anyone notified of it? I certainly was not.

You can always call in fatigued, but in your case (commander), you should call in "super FATiqued".

Divertnow 4th Jan 2017 17:41


Originally Posted by brewman187 (Post 9629819)
My January A380 Command roster. Wow, I bet you're a pleasure to fly with skipper.

Boeing 777 Air Lord

Did miss something? I can be slow off the mark but isn't he asking a reasonable question about a sh1tty roster. I'm not doing a 110 hr rosters! That's madness.

Kennytheking 4th Jan 2017 18:33

Stop being a bunch of douches. It's a reasonable question and clearly he is not as pprune wise as you lot. Ffs talk about not being able to identify the real problem:ugh:

JNPS 4th Jan 2017 19:48

Did someone mention the BK? No, not Burger King for terrain avoidance.

QCM 4th Jan 2017 20:07

Yeah parrots don't fly high but speak a lot...and apparently don't think twice.

fliion 5th Jan 2017 01:29


Originally Posted by A6EchoEchoUniform (Post 9629126)
My January A380 Command roster is at 104 hours over 21 days. I am being told that due to "increased demand" (of what??) that we can now be asked to fly up to 112 hours during 3 months of the year, as long as there's a one month break between rosters of over 100 hours.

When did this policy change, and was anyone notified of it? I certainly was not.

Commander - Ch 7 OMA.

Legal - yes or no?

"I'm being told"

FFS....

Popgun 5th Jan 2017 02:35


Boeing 777 Air Lord
Bwaaaaa! Thanks for the laugh Brewman!

PG

A6EchoEchoUniform 5th Jan 2017 04:19

What a warm welcome ... not!

Sorry chaps, I simply wanted to know if anyone knew when this policy came to be. It seems it's only the commanders of the A380 so far. B777 commanders and all first officers don't seem to have the same increased monthly hour ability.

pumpkin 5th Jan 2017 07:34

104 not just in a month but in 21 days. Absurd. I had heard the GCAA has approved up to 112 hrs.So, short of pilots,many quitting without jobs to go to due to sheer exhaustion, recruitment team let go, what do you do , flog the remaining minions harder and offer new hires more cash (not that they are coming). So what happens? More leave, hence compounding the issue.
Cancel flights to ease rosters; increase pilot compensation to be in line with work done- get some people to actually start wanting to work here again. Seems obvious but no this will just be an arrogant drive to the bottom until this airline is obliterated. Or another crash, or both. :(

KippaLippa 5th Jan 2017 07:42

........this will just be an arrogant drive to the bottom until this airline is obliterated. Or another crash, or both. :([/QUOTE]


Perfectly well described Pumpkin, it will be nice in the future to be here chatting about:"I told you that was gonna happen, told ya"

jetjockey696 5th Jan 2017 08:15

After hearing all this, i feel lucky that my BMI is 31, preventing for joining the EK chain gang..

felixthecat 6th Jan 2017 00:40

And exactly where is this written in the OMA because I cant find it :)

fatbus 6th Jan 2017 02:47

Have to laugh at all those that wish the demise of EK. Some are EK pilots that may have been delayed for LHS or failed. They won't be laughing if 4000 + pilots get dumped on the market. Or those that have property they can get rid of.

The Turtle 6th Jan 2017 07:25

Amen to that Fatbus.......those of us who have been around long enough have witnessed airlines rise and fall, and friends or self made redundant...

Never a pleasant time. We beat this to death, however, only firm management can guide this

We only do our part in keeping our A or B safely in the sky

Icarus2001 6th Jan 2017 07:39


and offer new hires more cash (not that they are coming)
I know three new starts in the last four months just from my part of the world.

So no, they are still coming.

BigGeordie 6th Jan 2017 07:56

Put it another way, they aren't coming in anywhere near the numbers that are needed. There will always be some people who just need to pay the bills. Or suffer from big shiny jet syndrome.


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