Emirates pilot refuses alcohol test
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The OM-A is very blunt about refusing a test; unfortunate for the pilot involved but we all know the rules...
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Yup, the second very senior guy to go this way in a short period.
SyB :sad::sad: |
Geoffrey Thomas with all the facts.
Emirates, unlike some airlines, encourages its pilots, no matter how junior, to speak up if they are concerned about issues such as the ability of a fellow crew member to perform their duties. Seriously? Airline staff are prohibited from drinking eight hours before a shift and pilots cannot have a blood alcohol content over 0.04. 12 and 0.02 The most famous case was in 1990 when all three Northwest Airlines flight crew were intoxicated when they flew a Boeing 727 from Fargo, North Dakota to Minneapolis. Probably the most memorable flight for all those concerned. halas |
Those alcohol limits depend on each country and their laws, or does your om-a state own limits? To my suprise, they seem quite relaxed in Australia (0,04%)
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The other day an SAS Captain was carted away to the police station for blowing 0.01.
You get that from drinking a glass of apple juice or brushing your teeth, yet he got removed from his airplane due to over-eager cops.. SAS captain with blood alcohol content stopped at Gardermoen - Norway Today |
The article states 100 pax were affected but the route is being operated by the 380. Are loads normally that light on a PER?
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Here we go again... thread drift initiated by Odins Ravin. @OR: Start a new thread if you're interested in route loads. The topic of the thread concerns a pilot who refused an alcohol test.
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I have been drinking alcohol EVERY SINGLE DAY OF MY WHOLE LIFE and I never ever found it addictive yet.......
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Originally Posted by The.Humble.Guy
(Post 9549039)
Here we go again... thread drift initiated by Odins Ravin. @OR: Start a new thread if you're interested in route loads. The topic of the thread concerns a pilot who refused an alcohol test.
Apologies for troubling you x |
Originally Posted by piratepete
(Post 9549061)
I have been drinking alcohol EVERY SINGLE DAY OF MY WHOLE LIFE and I never ever found it addictive yet.......
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dry humour is a lost art on the recent generations
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EASA rules: no more alcohol 8 hours before duty, not 12, although that might be an internal company policy. ( as long as you have less than 0.02, you are ok in reality).
They can ask me to undergo a breath test anytime before I enter my aircraft, but out of public view. ALWAYS insist on that. Once I enter my aircraft, I have command and any unpolite clowns will be thrown off. |
He was upset after reading STC's comments on pilots and automation.
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Originally Posted by JAYTO
(Post 9549116)
dry humour is a lost art on the recent generations
Well I'm four hours behind that timezone so let's say it was an early post before my morning coffee ;-) |
Remember, it is not the "official" report time when the clock starts, it's when you show up for pickup in uniform. We've had testing when an individual has been tested,, stepping off the elevator at a down route hotel.
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so then the official sign on time is when we get picked up...... oh hold on.....
lol J |
TU speaks the truth.
Long time ago an FO was indeed tested in the before pickup time waiting for the bus to depart to the airport at an outstation. He was over the limit. The outstation personnel had him go to the airport on the bus and retake the test again to which he passed. But since he had been over the limit at pickup time, he was offloaded and ended up deadheading back to Dubai. At the hearing while talking to EGT, the pilot in question brought the fact that the OM-A stated the timing was 12 hours prior to sign in but the bus time was about 1.5 hours prior to sign in. EGT said, "That's not how we interpret the rules". So it is indeed when you step off the elevator into the lobby wearing your uniform in public view. At that point, he was terminated. I know this firsthand as the pilot in question told me the story himself. Kap |
beeing fatique has the same influence as having alcohol in your blood but nobody cares!
Keep on rowing slaves. |
Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant
(Post 9549502)
TU speaks the truth.
Long time ago an FO was indeed tested in the before pickup time waiting for the bus to depart to the airport at an outstation. He was over the limit. The outstation personnel had him go to the airport on the bus and retake the test again to which he passed. But since he had been over the limit at pickup time, he was offloaded and ended up deadheading back to Dubai. At the hearing while talking to EGT, the pilot in question brought the fact that the OM-A stated the timing was 12 hours prior to sign in but the bus time was about 1.5 hours prior to sign in. EGT said, "That's not how we interpret the rules". So it is indeed when you step off the elevator into the lobby wearing your uniform in public view. At that point, he was terminated. I know this firsthand as the pilot in question told me the story himself. Kap All second hand tales of course so could be BS - but wouldn't surprise me either if true, having met that individual on several occasions... |
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