Does anyone actually like it out here anymore?
 

Pretty much what the title of the thread says?

In November this year, my family and I will of been out here for 4 years, at a time when we didn't think we'd do 2 years we've grown to love the place and the people and colleagues alike. We are a young family, still in our twenties, had 2 kids whilst being out here, done 900 hours every year, been in the box more times than I want remember, stayed in places nothing short of a war zone, been assaulted, done walkarounds in 50° heat and yet we still love it out here, my company (the noisy neighbours down the road) have treated me well throughout it all and I'm just about to start my upgrade in October.

So- chaps, does anyone still like it out here?

Yep, I do.. Just wish I could find a normal decent women in Dubai and then life will be complete.

New in the company for 8 months and honestly I like it. I don't love it but my biggest "annoyance" comes from grumpy colleagues which I don't blame them for as they have seen this company change.

But from where I come and how that company changes as we speak I know EK is better for me and will stay better even on this level.

TL;DR I like it :)

Congrats on the upgrade after 4 years that's great! Coming up on 9 years and I will be beginning my downgrade along with all remaining 330/340 drivers. So the next two years I will be sitting right seat after serving multiple years here as Captain. I and all remaining 330/340 Captains are no longer qualified to operate an EK aircraft from the left seat. So we will be sitting to the right of DEFO's and persons 4 years our junior. Apparently 20 takeoff and landings at 60 hours a month can not compare to 4-5 takeoff and landings at 90 hours. Oh and after I've done my time in the right seat I get the pleasure of going through a Captains review board and another command course. Yeah this place so totally rocks! Light at the end of the tunnel was indeed the train. Fatbus still likes it here.

Geeez man!

That is crap at its finest! Why the hell are they doing that, surely they'd of given 330/340 drivers a gig on the 'super jumbo' im pretty certain bus guys can convert in a week or so due to the cockpit familiarities between them?

Nailed it on the head Camel Rustler....just unbelievable.

Your being delusional if you like it in the UAE or your trying to fool yourself in to thinking life is good out here.

life is not good here, at best it's bearable but far from good.

Take a good long look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself what the hell happened to me that I'm posting on the prune that life is good in the UAE!!

Not everyone but very few have the requirement (2 or 4 Captains). Still unacceptable...

Sorry what did I miss? Doesn't OM-A 20.10.11.1 and 20.10.14 apply anymore?

Management by memo in full force. :\

CamelRustler & airbusgirl66

Care to elaborate please? A de identified copy and paste will suffice as proof of a memo that the Company is demoting Captains from the 330/340 onto 380 as F/O's!!!!!!!!!

Not a poker player but will definitely call you on this.

Harry

Absolutely hate it.

harry:.all the 330/340captains with less then 2000 hrs PIC on 330/340 received an email:

you'll go RHS "as a captain" acting FO maintaining terms and conditions, for a period dependent upon your PIC time ( 24months/1500 hrs if with <1000 330 PIC 18months/1000hrs if with <2000hrs). When time is up, you'll go trough a " Captain transfer course" (whatever that means)upon approval by the A380 Command review board.
Funny part is that is nor retroactive....those whom just CCQed without requirements are SAFE......

Harry, unbelievably, it is happening. I know first hand from a good friend who is getting screwed. The real kick is that they are 340 captains who have been here a while. They were forced to stay on the 340 while junior 330 only and 330 DECs were moved to the 380 ahead of them because the powers that be decided it was better than ccq. Most of those guys had way less than 2000 hrs 330 and some less than 500. As a result of this colossal debacle, 8 year EK pilots with 3-4 years command but less than 2000 hours due to the nature of the 330/340 flying, will be forced to sit right seat for junior captains with less command time. It's astoundingly bad. Yeah, they keep the pay, but its little consolation for the disrespect and insult.

Back to the thread.......now in my 8th year out here, and not only me, but also the wife still very glad we made the move. It ain't perfect, but still much prefer it here to back home!

skysod...I guess it all depends on where you are from....don't you think?

Then I hate to admit it but it's true.....the lunatics really have taken over the asylum!

Harry

CamelRustler

Point of order....mentions nothing of another command course. Still, that's this weeks policy...

EK has made a huge mistake with this one! Insulting! Indicates exactly what they think of their employees.

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad!

It is such an ill conceived policy one doesn't really know where to begin.

The irony to me is EK are making a damning statement about themselves and don't have the self awareness to realise it.

In the time these Captains have been at EK, they have been following company procedures and policies, flying a wide body airplane from the same manufacturer as the newer airplane in question and have been through the gauntlet of EK upgrade. If after all that, the airline thinks they are not capable of completing a conversion successfully, then I would say the company has failed miserably in the professional development of these pilots.

It is simply ridiculous.

Habibis.

If you do not write in to HD and JA etc, then you are accepting that this is OK :yuk::yuk:

Send an e mail in, fill up their e mail boxes. I will be doing this, silence is not an option.

SyB :zzz::zzz: