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Heritage 1 20th Sep 2016 18:18

He didn't say AAR could be moved aside, he said that we HOPE he can be.

Rather Be Skiing 21st Sep 2016 06:27

AAR this, CM that, TC etc blah, blah, blah!

It doesn't matter, things will not change. At least not for the better.

The only thing greater than the ignorance shown by management is their arrogance. The belief they are infallible and they can do no wrong. It is always the employees fault.

So, there are really two options, stay because it suits you or leave because it doesn't. We are lucky in todays job market; opportunities abound.

Waiting and hoping is a waist of time.

fatbus 21st Sep 2016 06:55

Agree! Pilots are way down the list of concerns of the top floors. For those that think CM is going to vastly improve things, what do you expect from him? When you talk about max hours , it is planned for every pilot to fly 900 and for those that fly more there is another that is under..
I like saying leave if you don't like it,A )because I am and B )because many other jobs out there.
For those that are stuck here I feel sorry for you. The latest on the 330 to 380 transfer is again an indication that nothing is as it seems in the ME. Be prepared to be disappointed , disillusioned,disgruntled and most of all deceived !

TIMINGandLUCK 21st Sep 2016 09:59

An interesting thing happened today. I'm using Allied movers to ship my things back home because I've had enough and resigned from EK. The lady said to me "you are the 6th Emirates pilot this week that I've provided a shipping quote for. I am really getting concerned about who is going to be flying the airplanes." She said she has been doing the job for a number of years and has never seen such a mass exodus.

Ironic that a non Emirates shipping company can see the problem but not the Emirates management...

flareflyer 21st Sep 2016 10:50

And 26 cpts resigned all together.
Korean organized a course only for ex ek startin in december....

Rather Be Skiing 21st Sep 2016 11:07


And 26 cpts resigned all together.
Korean organized a course only for ex ek startin in december....
Truly?! That is pretty funny if so! :D

PPRuNeUser0215 21st Sep 2016 11:15


Originally Posted by TIMINGandLUCK (Post 9514935)
'.....The lady said to me "you are the 6th Emirates pilot this week that I've provided a shipping quote for.....

Ironic that a non Emirates shipping company can see the problem but not the Emirates management...

Ha ha ha I was the 5th one yesterday 😀😀😀😀😀.

fliion 21st Sep 2016 12:43

EK - (E)mbrace (K)orean

notapilot15 21st Sep 2016 15:42

Comms are always difficult from Xanadu Beach Resort & Marina penthouse.

Enos 26th Sep 2016 07:58

Question

Is it now standard practice to have a duty on the day before leave, I have 3 days off then a duty, I looked to swap the trip forward by a day but the guy doing the duty is also on leave straight after the duty.

I don't remember this being communicated to me, it's been a while since I've had leave though.

Is this just another way to motive pilots to look for another job.

framer 26th Sep 2016 12:09

Heh heh, no matter how bad it gets, at least you'l never have a title like 'executive Vice President of HR' ....that's humorous , it might as well be ' second in command of being no use to anyone ever' .

cf680c2b 2nd Oct 2016 08:33


Originally Posted by X-BleedOpen (Post 9513481)
Whatever it is guys, it's completely stupid. There is no other way to put it.

And the cadets? 15 years to upgrade? Come on please...

What are they trying to achieve? And 32 on 777? Ahhaahha so wait a minute, this is a knee jerk reaction to EK521 and they put an age on the fleet where it happened lower than on the other one? Failure rate, regardless of age, has been very low, and the current reqs are fair. Increase the hours, change the selection process, but age? Come on... they are forcing me to leave.

Xbleed, no one cares if you leave. Ek f*^*ks a different group every week and this week happens to be your turn. Bend over, grit your teeth, and take it...... Cause everyone knows you Europeans ain't goin no where!

jack schidt 2nd Oct 2016 11:21

Seaman S,

Leave (UAE) is 30 days and as aircrew your entitlement shows 42 which is to offset public holidays and the like, so we do get them!

J

Avid Aviator 2nd Oct 2016 11:25

True JS, but the point is 3rd floor EGHQ office "workers" get 42 days AL PLUS all the public holidays!!
And they actually get their 42 days, not just some of them like most of us.

777-200LR 2nd Oct 2016 14:20

Do you guys actually believe this age fiasco? Its seems what was once a cruise rumour has now fully convinced a lot of you! And to make it sound viable, you have contributed to the Chinese Whisper but adding that it will be different ages on different fleets :ok:

Enjoy destroying your nights' sleep

-200LR

Don Corleone 2nd Oct 2016 15:57


Originally Posted by jack schidt (Post 9527636)
Seaman S,

Leave (UAE) is 30 days and as aircrew your entitlement shows 42 which is to offset public holidays and the like, so we do get them!

J

So we have 42 days leave, that gives us exactly 6 times one week vacation since we don't get days off around our leave. 42 days is exactly 42 day if we get them at all.

Now in the office they get 30 days. 1 Week leave costs them 5 days but they can spend 9 days on leave since you have a weekend on either side. So 30 devide by 5 equals 6, times 9 equals 54. This doesn't include public holidays...

But hey we only do 100 plus block hours (for the office staff, that is not the same as duty hours! They will be even more!) a month with a recurrent squeezed in, change our biological clock at least twice a week, cross timezones and work when everybody else is sleeping and on top of that trying to keep everybody safe

kingpost 2nd Oct 2016 16:03

Are we missing something here;

http://m.gulfnews.com/business/aviation/delta-agrees-to-30-raise-for-pilots-after-nine-month-standoff-1.1905105

Yorkshire_Pudding 2nd Oct 2016 19:53

First quarter 2016 delta profits 1.56 Billion dollar....


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