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Mach.888 31st Aug 2016 12:15

This got to be a joke.
There can't be a single pilot out there that doesn't know how things have changed in EK.
And for us here, it's very, very clear that they rather close down
then improving anything.
And I mean ANYHING!
When I joined long time ago it was different.
We were all told how much we ment to the company and how valuable we all were to the expansion of EK.
During those days it was wildly known how Qatar treated its staff,
reminding us how lucky we all were not working for them.
The other day I bumped into a Qatar Captain in the emigration que in HKG.
All it took was to get rid of one man and everything changed.
Bloody amazing.

notapilot15 31st Aug 2016 13:36

I am with jayto on this one.

Recruitment can spin this as you guys are enjoying Dubai lifestyle, night life, tax free regime, brand name recognition and so many young colleagues, don't want others to spoil your party.

Macrohard 31st Aug 2016 16:39

B777 Capt I know, left EK one year ago for SW. Says he wished he'd left sooner.

Neptune Spear 31st Aug 2016 17:33

I left EK over a year ago and the only thing I regret, much like every other Emirates pilot that left is I wish I could have left earlier.
I feel so much better. My mind, my body and my soul. There is no comparison.
At SWA you'll probably get a 12-13 day line and the latest you will work is 11pm. What do you want to accomplish at Emirates? An early funeral?

mmorel 31st Aug 2016 18:47

The salary of Southwest for captain is around 220k before tax which is around 150 k , how can you compare this to emirate salary?

Laker 31st Aug 2016 20:55

Mmorel,

Your numbers are a little off. They just got a 28% raise. Top CA rate is around $280 per hour plus a 15% provident contribution. It's very easy for a CA to break $300k/year with minimal extra work. I know many FO's there exceed 200k. The minimum days off for a junior pilot on reserve is 15/month. Pretty sweet gig if you don't mind flying domestic.

in freedom 31st Aug 2016 22:54

Forget about job and $$$ for a second. Are you really wiiling to step outside of a society which at least strives to provide freedom and justice for all, to become a slave for an authoritarian regime that can and will do anything to you to enrich themselves?

Wellbeing of expats is not a goal beyond keeping them functioning to get the work done. When they are broken, get the next one.

Because bad news get censored, we only receive good news about Dubai. Thus anybody's picture is utterly incomplete before coming to Dubai. I wish somebody had told me that more clearly before I fell into the trap.

Have a read, this is a pretty good summary.
The dark side of Dubai | The Independent

Rotating Bacon 1st Sep 2016 05:48

was a 380 captain with EK, left after 17 years with no job, would take SW in a second, my regret is that I didn't leave earlier, it became a horrible company

Panther 88 1st Sep 2016 09:26

This has to be a windup or a BS post. No response from the originator. Several days gone by. Or if poster is real, too embarrassed to admit he turned down SWA or actually got a rejection from them. We'll see.

fatbus 3rd Sep 2016 01:21

380 Capt 15 years after taxes 250k

propaganda 3rd Sep 2016 08:11

Two bucket philosophy seems to work for most .....those who continue to seek the holy grail Dhm whilst continuing to live the dream must be in the minority these days.

Panther 88 3rd Sep 2016 08:13

For those over 50, it's most likely the retirement bucket.

bringbackthe80s 3rd Sep 2016 08:34

There is no way this thread is genuine.

Flyboy_SG 3rd Sep 2016 10:20

In_Freedom...I second you !

HornetDrvr 3rd Sep 2016 18:34

Southwest! Take it from an EK escapee, EK was THE worst job I ever had and I left after exactly 11 months.

B777EK 3rd Sep 2016 19:45

Not sure how does it work in Sw, but the people answering you are in EK and not leaving.
I think they compare it with other Airlines and they prefer it.

Personally, i recommend EK and i prefer it because i am comparing with lots of other airlines.

in freedom 3rd Sep 2016 22:14

B777EK, that is not correct. A lot of the posters have left EK, myself included.
In this very thread HornetDrvr, RotatingBacon and Neptune Spear state that they have left as well.

Good for you that you like it on the 777. None of my classmates and friends have said that to me in the last 2 years.

In fact, their identical words from each of them are that rosters on the 777 are worse than ever.

speedbirdhopeful1 3rd Sep 2016 22:48


Originally Posted by B777EK (Post 9495902)
Not sure how does it work in Sw, but the people answering you are in EK and not leaving.
I think they compare it with other Airlines and they prefer it.

Personally, i recommend EK and i prefer it because i am comparing with lots of other airlines.

Either brand new, or came from a third world airline they wouldn't be hiring from if it wasn't so crap that no one from the civilised world is applying!
I can assure you the 777 fleet is the worst possible lifestyle and roster it is possible to have. It's taken quite a few years now for the fatigue and cumulative tiredness to really set in and it's taking years of my life. I have been invited to 6 leaving parties in the last year alone and am working on my own. Do yourself a favour and don't come here.

dhc8d 3rd Sep 2016 23:15

or came from a third world airline they wouldn't be hiring from if it wasn't so crap that no one from the civilised world is applying!

Waw if the world that you came from is that "civilised" why did you come here at all?

You are pathetic

speedbirdhopeful1 4th Sep 2016 06:18


Originally Posted by dhc8d (Post 9496052)
Waw if the world that you came from is that "civilised" why did you come here at all?

You are pathetic

Good question. Back in the day it was a good job that offered the balance of making a lot of money, lifestyle, career path and a nice roster to justify leaving somewhere civilised. I needed 6000 hours on decent sized jets to even get an interview - people left good jobs to come here. The place has deteriorated so quickly and dramatically there's no way myself and others would come here now if we were doing it all again.

Now all of that is gone and we are scraping the barrel with guys that have fake logbooks, crashing simulators in assessments and very limited experience in countries with questionable safety.

I'm pathetic? You're the one who has repeatedly been told all the facts about how bad it is and will probably still join..


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