When I joined the company, LIPS was the first presentation given on the first day of the admin week. It was presented as a mandatory scheme. The salesman stated that LIPS pays out if the pilot's licence is lost, regardless of reason, "no questions asked". The whole thing was hard sell and misrepresentation. I became convinced from that pitch that it's a scam. I'm not going anywhere near it.

So, if it is a "scam", then who is benefiting from this "scam"? If no-one is benefiting, then can you really call it a "scam"?

Questions re LIPS/ API and the meaning of the word SCAM
 

scam
skam/
nouninformal
1.
a dishonest scheme; a fraud.
"an insurance scam"
synonyms: fraud, swindle, fraudulent scheme, racket, trick, diddle; informalcon, con trick, flimflam, gyp, kite; informalramp, twist; informalhustle, grift, shakedown, bunco, boondoggle; informalrort
"the scam involved a series of bogus reinsurance deals"
verb
1.
swindle.
"a guy that scams old pensioners out of their savings"

footballfanppl:

Insanity: "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". Albert Einstein

I have no idea what led to you losing your medical but I fear insanity might be a factor. You have repeatedly come onto this forum spreading your propaganda yet have not replied to a single question from any respondent on the numerous posts you've made. Clearly you are delusional and it is probably best you are no longer in a cockpit.

You really need to sort out your crap or just go away. You are wasting our time and Pprune's bandwidth. Good luck in your future life and get some help. :ugh:

Dune , well done ! Agree with you.

Lips api legal pending legal case: This is a public forum dont shoot the messenger
 

Dune Don , Peter or whatever your name is ..try and contain your obvious anger sitting behind your laptop. All will be revealed in its own good time. My case is sub judice.

sub judice
sʌb ˈdʒuːdɪsi,sʊb ˈjuːdɪkeɪ/
adjectiveLAW
under judicial consideration and therefore prohibited from public discussion elsewhere.
"the cases were still sub judice"
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When you've taken a deep breath and any medication you may be on, please, re read the Freudian ( neurotic ) repeated identical postings by you and other self appointed " lead pilot managers" of LIPS / API on the " Board of Directors " EACH spending AED6000 a month of pilots hard earned contributions on themselves without being transparent by disclosing this to contributing scheme members. A simple circular to all the pilot members of LIPS/ API disclosing this would suffice.

Do you have a calculator to hand ?

THE TOTAL BILL from the "pilot managers " for "voluntary work" taken annually from hard earned pilot funds. AED 400,000 a year.

In between times renewing your medication you might like to look up the definition of volunteer:

voluntary
ˈvɒlənt(ə)

adjective
1.
done, given, or acting of one's own free will.
"we are funded by voluntary contributions"
synonyms: optional, discretionary, at one's discretion, elective, non-compulsory, non-mandatory, not required, open, open to choice, volitional, up to the individual; More
2.
working, done, or maintained without payment.
"a voluntary helper"
synonyms: unpaid, unsalaried, without pay, without payment, free of charge, without charge, for nothing, for free; More
noun
1.
an organ solo played before, during, or after a church service.
2.
(in a competition) a special performance left to the performer's choice.


After my case is heard in court I can officially identify ALL parties and communication involved to readers on this forum AND to the concerned pilot community individually.In the meantime I will continue to pass on what information I can about THE DARK SIDE OF LIPS / API available based on my current experience. IINFORMATION WHICH ,HAD I KNOWN AT THE TIME ,WOULD HAVE ALLOWED ME TO MAKE INFORMED CHOICES AND TAKEN MY CUSTOM ELSEWHERE.

Back to my pending legal case.
To my fellow aviators still out there very busy aviating WAKE UP and DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND

caveat emptor
ˈɛmptɔː/
noun
the principle that the buyer alone is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before a purchase is made.
"caveat emptor still applies when you are buying your house"


FOR BELL THE DUNE TOLLS

Agreed, but 4 threads in a short time about the same topic is somehow spam.....

You should try law
 

Awareness is key.

Yes just like the chickens in the Ardman Animations movie " CHICKEN RUN"
Get the Chickens to write to the chicken farmer about what's really happening on the Chicken farm.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT ONE !

Where is a good moderator when you need one?

FREE WORLD
 

This is the real world,the free world los p where free speech for all is possible.

Where underhand behavior can be highlighted and lack of transparency exposed for what it is.

Interesting how some would suggest censoring those who do not agree with them or threaten their cosy little interests, and yet who are happy to use this public forum to further their own ends.

I'm not suggesting censoring, but as it has been pointed out before... Starting four(?) different threads on the same subject, keeping them alive with duplicate posts, some slightly delirious, is just bad forum etiquette. That's the rule of the moderator, which is just that, not a censor.

When you create your user on here, a moderator reviews your initial posts before making them public, to make sure they are not gibberish. In the same way the moderator should review any further posts, to keep the forum on topic and relevant.

I'm working my @rse off keeping footballfanppl's multiple threads in some semblance of order.

Here's notice footballfanppl - keep your soapboxing on the LIPS issue to this thread; if you start any more threads they're going in the bin.

Here here!!

Hallelujah...

if that is the case why are you offering to spill the info via a private message to someone without ensuring client/legal representative privilege?

This is on the API website. Timeline fits so prob the case being referred to here.

Pre-existing Condition - moving along then..........

Preconditions are not covered by EK either so it would be interesting to know how did he get that paid out...

MS

Paid out to get rid of him. He had a big big file.

Condition causing loss of license could have started during the time that a person has already been employed by the company for number of years. Let's say someone starts having doubts about capability to continue flying one might start looking for an extra loss of license protection.

If joining date to LIPS/API or to any other loss of license insurance/program has been after this condition has started causing symptoms or been diagnosed I would assume all of them would reject the claim based on pre-existing condition.

In this case company loss of license would pay, extra insurance would not.