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Xulu 18th Sep 2016 11:42

I've flown with a few newly transferred Captains who have come straight from 330. No 18 months/1000 hours on type.

Of course 330 FO's should expect to do at least some time on the 380 before getting an upgrade.

A shortened type rating, command course and new routes/regions is too much all at once in this training environment - they'd be a liability for 6 months, so they may as well do those 6 months in the RHS where they can be get some basic experience/knowledge/confidence before switching seats. And really, they should recognise that.

2500 hrs on type is too much. 18 months is still too much. But 6 months would be sensible.

The 35yo upgrade requirement is coming from GCAA, not from EK. It's not their choice. I imagine they'll be pushing for an exemption, and expect in the short-term that it'd be granted.

Capn Rex Havoc 18th Sep 2016 15:39

XULU


A shortened type rating, command course and new routes/regions is too much all at once in this training environment - they'd be a liability for 6 months, so they may as well do those 6 months in the RHS where they can be get some basic experience/knowledge/confidence before switching seats. And really, they should recognise t
XULU,

I call Bullsh.it on that.

330/340 captains, have, without doubt, operated in far more difficult flight regimes/airfields, than any "super" has operated.

Any EK 330/340 captain can easily and safely be ccc'd onto the 380.

I should know, I came for from the little fleet- and the 380 is a doddle in comparison.

donpizmeov 18th Sep 2016 16:22

I hear ya Rex. It aint rocket science to sleep in a bunk. Line training will fix the other stuff.

Talparc 28th Sep 2016 08:31

Just heared from a HR guy that the seniority list got initially removed as somebody discovered the scam of putting in countless rejected applicants names to artificially increase the pilot force on the list.
Did anybody check the new list ( more of a bidding list) for irregularities?

pilotguy1222 29th Sep 2016 08:41


Originally Posted by my salami (Post 9493109)
All upgrade courses stopped till 2017... Apparently.

MS

Not true. Oct classes and Nov classes are still being filled and ongoing as of today's date.

Seems to me that this shafting af the 330/340 CAs is a ploy to keep the right seat full(er).

kcar 14th Oct 2016 08:56


Originally Posted by Hypoxic01 (Post 9503538)
The Seniority List can be downloaded and re-ordered to reflect the list as it used to be. PM for info. I don't use Apple.. it's evil so can only offer windows info. Maybe it will still work for the Apple munchers.

I suppose you marked the text (list), used the copy function of the browser and then imported it into Excel but that function has now been inhibited.

Hypoxic01 14th Oct 2016 09:15


Originally Posted by kcar (Post 9540512)
I suppose you marked the text (list), used the copy function of the browser and then imported it into Excel but that function has now been inhibited.

It's a bit more involved than that. Others have had success following my method.

natops 1st Nov 2016 05:35

Just had a look at our new useless seniority list.

There is one person CA 380, with a bidding group no.6.
To my knowledge there are only 5, or did I miss something again?

You guys think its a typo or is there a group6 ( invitation only)?
:E

The Outlaw 1st Nov 2016 11:37

I noticed that same individual in bid group 6 as well...it would appear that he is "more equal" than others. Sure is nice to be top in the group every month!

montencee 1st Nov 2016 12:40


Just had a look at our new useless seniority list.

There is one person CA 380, with a bidding group no.6.
To my knowledge there are only 5, or did I miss something again?
What about the fella above him? Last entry in group 5, # starting 449. Is he the first A380 DEC?

donpizmeov 1st Nov 2016 14:04

Almost. He had a month or three on the 330 after training.


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