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Nikita81 20th Nov 2016 19:22


the basics of this industry are pretty simple
You forgot the first and the most important one:

- don't hire corrupted and incapable assholes whose only goal is to take your money and run back to their country

Stjuk 21st Nov 2016 07:57

https://aircargoeye.com/why-airlines-can-no-longer-afford-to-insult-their-pilots/

Interesting article. I hope Mr.Mueller is following the developments in his home country.

ruserious 21st Nov 2016 09:12

Yeah, but never underestimate the power of arrogance and denial

donpizmeov 22nd Nov 2016 14:46

The cull has begun. Temporary contract workers being given 1 weeks notice. Projects cancelled. On board services to be "modified". More to be announced to the masses on Sunday.

ExDubai 22nd Nov 2016 17:25


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 9586364)
The cull has begun. Temporary contract workers being given 1 weeks notice. Projects cancelled. On board services to be "modified". More to be announced to the masses on Sunday.

Any idea what that means?

Plane and simple 22nd Nov 2016 18:09


Originally Posted by ExDubai (Post 9586533)
Any idea what that means?

I imagine First Class still get a hot meal, but it's bring your own Boots Meal Deal for Economy and there's a vending machine installed in the A380 bar for J Class customers.

Nikita81 22nd Nov 2016 18:18


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 9586364)
The cull has begun. Temporary contract workers being given 1 weeks notice. Projects cancelled. On board services to be "modified". More to be announced to the masses on Sunday.

Useless managers fired?

notapilot15 23rd Nov 2016 15:08

Changes to passenger amenities already started.

1) Airport charges on O&D passengers
2) Seat selection charges for economy
3) Local artisan chocolates replaced Godiva.
4) No more free birthday cake

Timothy hinted at more auxiliary charges to compete with low-cost long haul carriers. It appears, they are go to blame this on Norwegian and Air Asia and all other tiny airlines operating non-stops from their own countries.

Nikita81 23rd Nov 2016 15:21

Treating the consequences rather than the causes. So unintelligent.

nolimitholdem 23rd Nov 2016 23:38


Timothy hinted at more auxiliary charges to compete with low-cost long haul carriers. It appears, they are go to blame this on Norwegian and Air Asia and all other tiny airlines operating non-stops from their own countries.

HAHAHAH oh if that's true that's brilliant! Globalization turning around and biting its supposed champions right in the a$$. Tim Clark railing against the "protectionist" Euros and Yanks - is he now going to try and erect barriers to airlines with more "productivity" than EK?

It must suck to have to compete against companies that can turn a profit due to cheaper labour and the advantage of more "relaxed" regulatory regimes and...oh wait, isn't that what the US majors complain about with the ME3?

I love irony.

trimotor 24th Nov 2016 02:52

It does seem likely that the much-repeated mantra of 'we simply do it better' is about to be forgotten. It needs to be: multiple experiences of the quality of service having gone for a row, compounded by seriously disengaged and indifferent staff, on ground and in the air.

Attitudes have to change, starting at the top. It's now becoming slightly embarrassing to admit to working here - every punter you speak to now has a tale of woe: not like 10-15 years ago, when nothing but good was heard.

The Outlaw 24th Nov 2016 05:15

Tri
 
Only slightly?

The next few years will a cross between a chicken abattoir and a zombie festival.

So many costa dwellers running around with no direction looking for brains.

If the regional psyche was open to the recognition of mistakes, open to suggestion, criticism and change then GF would have been a major concern.

Given that some of the talent came from GF to other ME operators, one doesn't have to look very far to predict the future.

Either way, its going to be a fine study for business universities all over the world that arrogance and market forces don't mix.

Nikita81 26th Nov 2016 00:14

"I’ve got these few photos from a Dnata employee. They present e-mails which Dnata employees got recently, notifying them that Dnata’s revenues are down 13% and that sales have decreased 14% and that there will be redundancies."

https://donotflyemirates.wordpress.c...its-employees/

atpcliff 26th Nov 2016 07:45

When I can fly via a ME carrier, I try to fly QR. I prefer their overall service (and the GREAT biz/1st class lounge in Doha), and they are OneWorld with AA.

If EK was in SkyTeam with DAL I would try and fly EK all the time...

serf 26th Nov 2016 09:05


Originally Posted by atpcliff (Post 9590204)
When I can fly via a ME carrier, I try to fly QR. I prefer their overall service (and the GREAT biz/1st class lounge in Doha), and they are OneWorld with AA.

If EK was in SkyTeam with DAL I would try and fly EK all the time...

QR business is good for sure, economy however is distinctly average compared to others.

Mr Good Cat 26th Nov 2016 09:37


Originally Posted by serf (Post 9590259)
QR business is good for sure, economy however is distinctly average compared to others.

Is it not true though that most economy pax just want the cheapest ticket with a bit of In-flight entertainment and don't really care about the service etc?

First Class is a limited market so it's no surprise that all the focus is on Biz Class for the ME3 now. And QR does seem to do it better than the other two.

EK seems to have dug itself into a GF-style hole of mediocrity that it can't climb out of. Shame but I guess all empires have their day then fizzle away.

notapilot15 26th Nov 2016 09:53

Any idea what 40,000 (65000 - 24000 FDC/CC) non-front line staff do? This is on top of 40,000 dnata. Are they EKAS and Emirates Kitchen? Do they serve other airlines at DXB? It appears there are other airport service companies at DXB.

40,000 seems to bit excessive to support 24,000 core staff.

Nikita81 26th Nov 2016 10:34

What any cancer does. Growing until it kills its owner.

AlanPardew 26th Nov 2016 13:59


Originally Posted by Nikita81 (Post 9590334)
What any cancer does. Growing until it kills its owner.

We all thought you were over this campaign now and had moved on with your life. It's very sad.

As with everyone who leaves says - let it go, you'll be much happier.

Capt. Flamingo 26th Nov 2016 15:50

Do not engage


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