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Pointer 22nd Apr 2016 08:07

Pilot hit by ground vehicle during walk-around!
 
Hello People,

During my walk around (in DXB) a dispatcher told me that a fellow pilot was hit by a ground vehicle just day before yesterday and seriously hurt his head.. Anyone know about this?

I thought these events only happened in MAN?

Pointer :E

bidabon 22nd Apr 2016 10:40

Was told the same thing the other night at about 00h30, but didn't see or hear anything I must say.
So, not knowing tooooo much !

flaphandlemover 22nd Apr 2016 11:25

Heard it was on B16 and he was ran over by a container high lifter that pushed back...
No word on his injuries.. I hope he is well and nothing serious...

White Knight 22nd Apr 2016 11:58

Sadly the one in MAN (if you're talking circa 2001, 2002) dies of his injuries...

Yellow jackets and ear defenders mean JACK ALL on the ramp. Watch out for muppets...

PositiveRate876 23rd Apr 2016 19:04

Was also cautioned to be careful by a dispatcher when heading out of the walkaround the other day. Said the pilot bumped his head and was taken to the hospital.

Coincidentally found out that the rampers are not required to have a Dubai (or any) drivers license to drive on the ramp. Only an airport issued drivers permit. So be careful out there. :ugh:

Mister Warning 23rd Apr 2016 20:37

Leave the walk-around to the ginger-beers.

Stanwell 23rd Apr 2016 21:30

Years ago, I cut my head open on the trailing edge of a (DC3) wing while being concerned about someone else's safety.
I felt there was a message in that.

Mariners have an expression...
"One hand for the ship - and the other hand (most importantly) for yourself."

Land Hopper 23rd Apr 2016 22:17

Pilot hit by ground vehicle during walk-round
 

Originally Posted by PositiveRate876 (Post 9354111)
Was also cautioned to be careful by a dispatcher when heading out of the walkaround the other day. Said the pilot bumped his head and was taken to the hospital.

Coincidentally found out that the rampers are not required to have a Dubai (or any) drivers license to drive on the ramp. Only an airport issued drivers permit. So be careful out there. :ugh:

Coincidentally the information you received is incorrect.

In order to attain an Airport Driving Permit you must hold a valid UAE licence.

I would suggest that in future the information that you post is checked for validity before moving ahead.

As we all know, working on the ramp is very hazardous and every individual must always be fully aware of their surroundings and what is going on.

I would like to ask whether the individual involved was actually wearing a high viz tabard as I always seem to see folk not complying with this.

That being said, I wish him well and hopefully a speedy recovery.

notapilot15 24th Apr 2016 02:10

Land Hopper

I will go out on a limb and say you are reading from the script.

Like any other questionable practice with this world class entity there are posts claiming there are ramp workers with expired licenses (not driving lic). Also ramp accidents are very common but are cleaned up quickly and quietly.

Of course any such claim will be vehemently denied, leaving analysts scratching their heads.

Another interesting aspect of this great entity, PR team jumps on any single violation anywhere else in the world and start preaching about rules, regulations and safe practices.

QCM 24th Apr 2016 02:33

As demonstrated everyday on the roads a driving licence does not prevent you from bad driving...0 risk system does not exist.

JammedStab 24th Apr 2016 03:54

It does seem like the walk around is the most dangerous part of the flight. Number one priority should be looking around for other vehicles. And avoid the temptation to walk between dollies.

ruserious 24th Apr 2016 04:02

Heard from the FO I just flew with that the pilot who got knocked over was taken to RH where he was refused treatment as they did not know who was going to pay for it, put back in ambulance and taken to American Hospital and during trip had to be resuscitated.
No idea if it's true, but would explain the very quick email from Medical dept last week about how we could go anywhere to get emergency treatment.

Kobus Dune 24th Apr 2016 05:49

Land Hopper

You are such an obvious "management troll" that it's in fact funny to read your first - and probably unique - post :

I would suggest that in future the information that you post is checked for validity before moving ahead.
As we all know, working on the ramp is very hazardous and every individual must always be fully aware of their surroundings and what is going on.
I would like to ask whether the individual involved was actually wearing a high viz tabard ....

Calmcavok 24th Apr 2016 06:40


I would like to ask whether the individual involved was actually wearing a high viz tabard as I always seem to see folk not complying with this.
You do get a great view of the ramp from the outside deck by Costa. :D

P7xkk 24th Apr 2016 06:50

The Ground Safety chaps are investigating. I heard from them that the pilot was doing his WAI and a "baggage truck" reversed into him & knocked him out cold as a result.
No further word yet, the GS boyo in question has yet to be seen since last week. More to follow i'm sure.

rdr 24th Apr 2016 06:51

Kobus Dunce,
when you cannot fault a guys argument, you attack him personally. You have done neither.
Instead, you have simply posted his content verbatim. If you cant contribute to the thread, quit whining. Many have had close calls on the walk around.

fatbus 24th Apr 2016 07:58

Was it an EK pilot

Buford 24th Apr 2016 08:41

We've been told by several doctors in Dubai that they're reluctant to direct bill EK any more because they take 6-9 months to settle their bills. Not only that, but one well-known clinic said they offer EK 20% discount on their general consultation rates but recently EK has refused to pay the discounted rate and instead demanded to pay a rate of 45% of the regular rate! The Doc was surprised to hear we pay for 'insurance' each month - they thought we got everything for free. Several clinics are refusing to take EK staff as patients because they're sick of not being paid on time.

Land Hopper 24th Apr 2016 10:35

Kobus

I am not as you call it 'an obvious management troll' in any way or form. I am just an ordinary worker bee like the vast majority of us all.

I would also argue the fact that my office gives me a much better view of what happens on the ramp here at DXB than your cockpit too.

There are just a couple of points that I would like to make though:

The guys here would not be able to operate the equipment without an ADP as this is all access controlled and only activated by swiping their card. The same goes to the expiry date. Once over, the card simply will not start the ignition.

My next point is about adherence to wearing high visibility vests. Unfortunately, DA do not enforce this and even have an AAN in place that says you only need to wear this once you are within the 'ERA' of the particular stand being worked on. Again, this is not limited to the ramp teams but every individual that moves in this area.

Finally, I would like to say that after working in a good number of airports around the world the ground teams here do a fantastic job in very difficult and trying circumstances. Quite often in the face of adversity considering the EK decision making process coming from the 7th Floor as well as very often vindictive and spiteful Dispatchers trying to throw their minimal lack of authority around just because they don't like a particular individual.

At the end of the day, I repeat that ramp areas are very dangerous areas and everyone must move around as if they have eyes everywhere at the same time. I have seen too many incidents and fatal accidents to remember. The only point I was trying to make in my original post was that one should validate what they are told before posting as it only goes towards distorting the truth about what happened.

PositiveRate876 24th Apr 2016 11:07


Originally Posted by Land Hopper (Post 9354255)
Coincidentally the information you received is incorrect.

In order to attain an Airport Driving Permit you must hold a valid UAE licence.

I would suggest that in future the information that you post is checked for validity before moving ahead.

As we all know, working on the ramp is very hazardous and every individual must always be fully aware of their surroundings and what is going on.

I would like to ask whether the individual involved was actually wearing a high viz tabard as I always seem to see folk not complying with this.

That being said, I wish him well and hopefully a speedy recovery.

Excellent first post Land Hopper!

However if one has a driver's license here, they can get a much higher paying job than being a ramper in 60 degree heat index. And my information is checked for validity. Is yours?


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