^^^^^^

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Moo Poo!

that explains why we always get downgraded
an example of leadership:-))
sit in economy and be happy as our leaders do! :-)
so more profit share!

If staff travel fares were lower you would never get a seat. 10000s of eligible staff with very low staff numbers and big families would be taking up all available seats.

Talking about salary increase or bonus you are not in the worse position in the region.

To reward them for the hard work at Flydubai the pilots have just been informed that an increase of 12 Dhs per flight hours have been approved...

No basic salary increase , no bonus and it is like that for years.

In 7 years of operation there have been one bonus of 3 weeks basic salary , one small increase of the basic salary ( +- 4% ) and 3 increases of the sector pay around 12 Dhs each...

I hope that it makes you feel better...

Well they'd be aft of the J/Y divider and who goes there anyway...

Well in the European LCCs you'd be grateful if you got a way with a 12 AED pay cut...

With that fantastic pay review, guess who will attend the Ryanair roadshow in DXB... :E

Lospilotos if you read my post properly you would have seen that I have said IN THE REGION as far as I know Europe is not yet in the Middle East...

Your geography skills are amazing. I just wanted you to broaden your LCC horizon a bit.

No but seriously, I didn't mean "you" as in "you Dubaigong" personally, but "you" as in a broader view. I'm not familiar with the Fly Dubai T&Cs, is there a bonus/profit share scheme as in Emirates?

Bonus? What's that?
 

It's the same every year...all this talk about a bonus. We don't receive a bonus (unlike so many in the 'company.') We receive a profit share only after they've found as many excuses as possible that it has to be low or non-existent. No one can speculate. Why are you wasting your time? Haven't you got anything better to do? Just wait and see. If we get anything, remember this is only one payment. It's pretty irrelevant in the long term, though we may possibly be able to pay off a credit card with it.

The most important announcement will be the pay review. That's what determines whether we stay or go if the past is anything to go by. Forget the step; that isn't a pay rise. Don't consider any moving of the goalposts by ek, ie better flight pay etc, as a pay rise. That all depends on your doing more and more hours. Over the past 13 years or so, in real terms, considering the rate of inflation and other goal post manoeuvres, the pay has decreased by 35%.

A very substantial basic salary increase is what's necessary. The rest would be an additional but important extra.

Wait for the facts and don't waste your valuable time and energy writing about stuff that may never happen.

"Was down route and happened to chat with some Delta pilots about their PS. I know I know it's a whole different thing, but their's was close to 1/3 of their earned pay. Probably Delta's bean counters are not as proficient at hiding and diverting profit. Just for info and "grins". And of course their management is trying to rid themselves of that, in the ongoing negotiations for a new contract."

...It was only 22% of our W2. That means the wide body captains received almost $70,000!
You are right the company is trying to adjust the PS but the pilots are going for a 40% pay increase. That will only get us back to 2002 wages though.
Don't worry you guys will probably get 10-12 weeks as the thread posters are pontificating.

Are you glad you didn't make it through DEC selection New Tomcat? It's time to move on.

That's what I thought. 2 weeks. Given there's an invitation to the circus, we should assume we stand a good chance of getting something. I don't think my view is pathetic or a brainwashed one for that matter. It's just the nature of this particular beast called Emirates.

Agreed - 2 weeks. 4 max.

The precursive speech might use the word, "Yield" negatively, then, "But", and we will all feel very fortunate to have gotten something outta what must have been a very tough year.......

The only thing I've noticed regarding the BBC article from STC was that the only reference was to Emirates Airline profit being up 40% not the Emirates Group which is what the PS is based on.
Here's hoping DNATA have made a fortune!

4 weeks max. Not expecting anything more.

I don't want a bonus, I want a life!!

We get what we get, simple as that.

I can't understand why people even talk about it, if it was going to be a life changing amount then yes why not get excited, but it won't be.

They will give as little as they can get away with. Things will only change around here when they're grounding 20+ aircraft due to the fact they don't have pilots to fly them.

So believe me, worry about other things in life and not what your bonus will or won't be, because it won't make any difference!

Puff:
excellent post
totally agree

It will make a difference to me so I´ll PM you my bank details for you to transfer your profit share since you are in no need of it...

Tragic
Umm not exactly what he said, are you management by any chance ;)