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ddd 3rd Mar 2016 09:17

Report: Qatar Airways fires pilots involved in Miami takeoff incident
 
Qatar Airways has apparently sacked the pilots responsible for substantially damaging a Boeing 777 when it struck a set of runway lights during takeoff from Miami in September.

A preliminary investigation determined that the aircraft entered the runway at an incorrect intersection, rather than using its full length. This meant the runway was too short for the heavily loaded plane to safely take off.

As a result, the aircraft only became airborne at the very end of the runway.

The collision with the approach lights – located approximately 60m from the end of the runway – caused a 46-centimeter tear in the fuselage behind the rear cargo door, as well as 90 dents and scratches and some damage to a metal landing gear guard.

At the time of the incident, there were four members of the flight crew in the cockpit: the captain, first officer and two relief pilots.

‘First and last’ incident

Earlier today, the Sydney Morning Herald reported that all of the pilots on the flight deck that day had been fired.

Asked about their termination at a press conference this week, Qatar Airways CEO Akbar Al Baker said the incident was the “first and last” time something like this would happen.

Wizofoz 3rd Mar 2016 12:01

Really? AAB had previously said this sort of thing happens all the time.....

Monarch Man 3rd Mar 2016 12:53

Yep Wizz, it NEVER happens....

Runway overruns 'happen quite often': Qatar Airways CEO Akbar Al Baker

Seems as though the man from Qatar may have had a moment of amnesia.

Rather Be Skiing 3rd Mar 2016 13:25

Maybe he means first and last time that those 4 pilots will do it! 😳

agolmefudeu 3rd Mar 2016 13:52


Originally Posted by Rather Be Skiing (Post 9291626)
Maybe he means first and last time that those 4 pilots will do it! 😳

Specially in Qatar.... :}:}:}:}

shedsd360 3rd Mar 2016 16:21

Stellar safety culture over there in the pit...

Old King Coal 3rd Mar 2016 21:15

Report: Qatar Airways fires pilots involved in Miami takeoff incident - Doha News

One suspects that the brutal combover is effecting his judgement & recollection?!

fo4ever 5th Mar 2016 01:10

QR will never learn or change their safety culture.

The Zohan 5th Mar 2016 11:53

Yes, but why the relief pilots? Even EK wouldn't have fired them...

tz

Obbie 5th Mar 2016 16:19

I'm pretty sure EK fired all four guys from the Melbourne disaster.

Anyway, this is old news, they were let go back in late December.

kipper the dog 5th Mar 2016 17:06

I am pretty sure EK only fired the two operating pilots from the Melbourne incident. Surprising, I know.

my salami 5th Mar 2016 18:41


Originally Posted by kipper the dog (Post 9301313)
I am pretty sure EK only fired the two operating pilots from the Melbourne incident. Surprising, I know.

They didn't get fired... They have "resigned":}:}

White Knight 5th Mar 2016 19:44

Only the two operating pilots 'left' from the EK 407. Relief guys still here AFAIK.

TURIN 5th Mar 2016 20:25


Yes, but why the relief pilots? Even EK wouldn't have fired them...
Especially as, from what I hear, one of them saw the error and tried to point it out to the captain at the time and the captain dismissed it. :suspect:

fo4ever 7th Mar 2016 00:53


Originally Posted by TURIN (Post 9301433)
Especially as, from what I hear, one of them saw the error and tried to point it out to the captain at the time and the captain dismissed it. :suspect:

Are you talking about the QR or the EK crew ?

kipper the dog 7th Mar 2016 06:26


Originally Posted by fo4ever (Post 9302530)
Are you talking about the QR or the EK crew ?

The QR crew.

BeCareful 9th Mar 2016 19:12

Says a lot about the safety culture, doesn't it?

I really think it's a matter of 'when' and not 'if' when this tempo combined with this kind of mindset will lead to an accident. When it does, if I were an expat manager, I would be on the first plane out of the country because we all know that our dish-dashed hosts could never be held accountable due to loss of face, so guess where the big fat hairy finger will point?

TURIN 9th Mar 2016 19:36

Yes, the QR crew. :suspect:

tomuchwork 9th Mar 2016 23:09

Seems nothing has changed in the last 10 years in QR. Why am I not surprised? Strange to hear from other sides that the company improved so much.

Same old, same old in good old ME. Enjoy.

Rather Be Skiing 10th Mar 2016 03:54

Just Qatar?
 
How prevalent is this 'safety' culture? Regionally? Globally

http://innerairmanship.com/blog/2016/03/08/we-will-not-accept-any-kind-of-lapses/


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