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moneyhoon 28th Jan 2016 15:39

Emirates Goes Non-Stop Dubai-Auckland from March
 
Good news for the Kiwi Boeing drivers.

Emirates Goes Non-Stop Dubai-Auckland from March

Buckshot 28th Jan 2016 20:22

This comes only a day or two after QR announced their AKL non-stop.

So two trips of these per month and you've done your hours, right?

Hat, coat...

A320CaptDav 28th Jan 2016 20:33

50 pilots
 
The stats say they need about another 25 pilots to sustain ACK..which means another 25 pilots who will be over worked and wanna leave ...which means they need about another 50 pilots ... good luck to EK I thought Panama was suppose to start before they go to ACK

propaganda 28th Jan 2016 23:30

Open a pilot base in AKL and you'll get your human resource requirement.

atiuta 29th Jan 2016 01:28

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

It will never happen.

checcker10 29th Jan 2016 02:39

Be interesting to see layover timings between QR and EK.
Bet EK rob their pilots of even more quality rest.

Can't see PTY starting anytime soon now with this announced. Ain't got the pilots

White Knight 29th Jan 2016 03:16

Except that there are 51 new joiners already this year so far... Not sure how many have left but the new guys/gals are still coming!

Wizofoz 29th Jan 2016 03:18

Plus it means we have two route, Panama and Auckland, that can ONLY be served by the 200LR- of which we only have 10 and which are starting to get long in the tooth.

We could use a few more.

WK- yeah, now they just have to be trained.....

Problem is, management will now say "Problem solved", when this is clearly a short-term band aid solution.

Enos 29th Jan 2016 04:14

This could mean EK can drop a OZ AKL flight to free up another slot in OZ.

The timings for NZ travellers to Australia have never been that great.

Good news for all who want to get down to that part of the world.

B-HKD 29th Jan 2016 04:15


Originally Posted by Wizofoz (Post 9252276)
Plus it means we have two route, Panama and Auckland, that can ONLY be served by the 200LR- of which we only have 10 and which are starting to get long in the tooth.

We could use a few more.

WK- yeah, now they just have to be trained.....

Problem is, management will now say "Problem solved", when this is clearly a short-term band aid solution.

Has there been any talk of increasing the MTOW to 347,451kg (max available) from the current 343t? And re-activating the single AUX tank on the 4-5 aircraft fitted with the plumbing?

There were some industry rumors regarding a follow up EK -200LR oder. The B777's coming off the line this year will be burning close to 2% less than aircraft from two years ago. GE90-110/5 PiP, flush windows, new slats, new fairings, no tail skid etc.

harry the cod 29th Jan 2016 04:15

Wizofoz

Reminds me of when the father took his son to the zoo and as they walked past the elephants, his son turned and asked:

'Dad, what's that big long thing between it's legs?'

His Dad replied 'it's a penis son, surely you'd know that at your age. Why do you ask?'

'Well, I was here last week with Mum and when I asked her, she stuttered..oh..oh..it's nothing son...nothing at all!'

'Son', his Dad responded, 'you have to remember.....your mother's been spoilt!'

Well, I think you've been spoilt too. A B757 or 747-400 is long in the tooth but a B777LR? :hmm:

Harry

B-HKD 29th Jan 2016 04:25


Originally Posted by harry the cod (Post 9252312)
Wizofoz

Reminds me of when the father took his son to the zoo and as they walked past the elephants, his son turned and asked:

'Dad, what's that big long thing between it's legs?'

His Dad replied 'it's a penis son, surely you'd know that at your age. Why do you ask?'

'Well, I was here last week with Mum and when I asked her, she stuttered..oh..oh..it's nothing son...nothing at all!'

'Son', his Dad responded, 'you have to remember.....your mother's been spoilt!'

Well, I think you've been spoilt too. A B757 or 747-400 is long in the tooth but a B777LR? :hmm:

Harry

Harry, I believe Wiz meant that the 10 strong -200LR fleet is going to be stretched thin with regards to covering its schedule.

Planned -200LR flying in Summer 16'

EK219/220 Orlando (2 aircraft)
EK227/228 Seattle (2 aircraft)
EK251/252 Panama City (2 aircraft)
EK326/327 Yinchuan and Zhengzhou
EK448/449 Auckland (2 aircraft)

In addition to Haneda, Seychelles and Mumbai + the usual -300ER subs here and there.

EK227/8 (SEA) and EK219/220 (MCO) have already been operated with the -300ER when demand picks up. I assume the former will be the first to switch to -300ER permanently if the fleet requirements dictate it.

I also would not be surprised if GRU/GIG went back to the -200LR, considering the current state of the Brazilian economy. Some very lightly loaded -300ERs flying to GRU at the moment, I hear.

A320CaptDav 29th Jan 2016 04:38

Sh*t show
 
Sad to say but looks like the 777 Ops is nearly a sh*t show , with so much flying and min rest I'm sure everyone is hit hard and health is taking a toll. I wonder if you guys can still 'perform' at night? At this rate I would be drained

Wizofoz 29th Jan 2016 04:44


Well, I think you've been spoilt too. A B757 or 747-400 is long in the tooth but a B777LR?
Hehe- I take your point, Harry- but the LRs have always done big hours, and are among the older members of the fleet. We are shortly going to start retiring the early ERs- there seems to be no such renewal plans for the LRs, while we keep finding new things to do with them.

Enos 29th Jan 2016 04:52

The route could be planned with the 787 in mind or dare i say it the 350 sometime in the near future?

halas 29th Jan 2016 05:22

...hopefully 350 :E

More interesting will be the layover.
It appears the aircraft will sit for ten hours prior to the return sector.
Does this mean we will get a 34hr layover?!?!?:uhoh::confused::bored::eek:

halas

Monarch Man 29th Jan 2016 05:43

You can bet it'll be a 34hr layover, initially, that is until the ASR Avalanche begins.
Yet another trip to press 2, on the basis of self preservation, and with luck the A350 will come along and gobble it up, but reading between the lines Boeing will be offering new build 200LR's for a song me thinks.
Oh joy, Keep recovering.

Hook 29th Jan 2016 06:33

The flight will be operated by A6-ERE. The last remaining 345. Never payload restricted .... if a seat's available, you'll get on :ok:

BYMONEK 29th Jan 2016 12:07

MM

I think you'll be right in the layover timings but personally that would work better. 2 rests, one after the duty, one before. 58 hours would create more jet lag issues back in Dubai. Only good I guess if you're a Kiwi and want time down route.

Whatever they decide, it's not the pairing on it's own that causes the fatigue, it's the cumulative effect of the overall months work...and the months before that too!

bvcu 29th Jan 2016 17:12

Aux tank....... bit of a problem, not certified so never used due to lack of nitrogen inerting allegedly , so doesn't have the advertised range as the longest range airliner


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