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Xiamen 26th Jan 2016 07:46

Thank you! Assessed and failed right here. Are you in the assessment team?

It's all up to the guys ticking the boxes. Or not.
The pass rate for DEC is?

donpizmeov 26th Jan 2016 07:52

Seniority list shows new joining DECs on both 330 and 777 from multiple nationalities.

Xiamen you are full of cr@p.

777boyindubai 26th Jan 2016 08:01

Xiamen. I am no defender of EK. But let me tell you for free that the recruitment and selection people have no axe to grind. They are highly professional and follow a transparent path. You do them a great disservice otherwise. In addition, I second Don's comments.

Sheikh Your Bootie 26th Jan 2016 09:48

5 DECs so far Don, the programme is a complete success :ugh::ugh:Not.

SyB :zzz:

donpizmeov 26th Jan 2016 09:55

You can only work with what you are given SyB. The fact is if you make the cut you are offered the job. There is no conspiracy.

With the package offered experienced fellas are not applying. Far better deals elsewhere.

Sheikh Your Bootie 26th Jan 2016 10:32

True indeed Don.

SyB :zzz:

fatbus 26th Jan 2016 14:49

320 Capt comes for (DEC) interview and crashes twice ! You want him flying your family ? Not mine.

delorean79 26th Jan 2016 16:08

but is he trainable? :eek:

The Outlaw 26th Jan 2016 21:25

Delorean,


Of COURSE he is because the CPA said so. Perhaps, what he doesn't realize is that there will be a flood of legal testimony to the contrary from endless pilots when the big impact occurs.

The CPA is a muppet and a planted figurehead....and will pay the price in due time....just watch how fast the company sends him down the **** creek with no paddle despite his nationality,


Tick Tock...Tick Tock...

Xiamen 26th Jan 2016 22:41


Seniority list shows new joining DECs on both 330 and 777 from multiple nationalities.

Xiamen you are full of cr@p.
Thank you for your kind words, don.
Do you know that outside the little EK bubble you guys are in, the way you treat other pilots asking questions are commonly referred to as bullying?
5 pilots since they started DEC, one? year ago?

I'm not saying this is what happened with the 320 pilot, but it is really easy to make a pilot crash in the simulator. He will not even know why he crashed.
If it is true, that is.

Last time I sent an application, I had to include my three last simulator reports.
If EK calls pilots who genuinly can't fly, the team is not doing the right back ground checks.

Tankengine 27th Jan 2016 01:31

Don is correct re who are NOT applying. :hmm:
A few F/Os from my company are there now, from what I hear from them and on here there is no way I would apply as a DEC with EK.:ugh:

Experience wise, 1500+ on 737 and 3000+ A330 in command so I would expect qualified.:p

lospilotos 27th Jan 2016 03:08


Originally Posted by Xiamen (Post 9249995)
If EK calls pilots who genuinly can't fly, the team is not doing the right back ground checks.

Ok, so you have a beef with the EK pilot selection team. You have made your point and no one seems to agree with you. Time to move on perhaps?

Laker 27th Jan 2016 04:24

Xiamen,

Why not consider it a blessing and move on? Sometimes things work out exactly as they should. There are some great contracts out there. You do realise that pilots are leaving EK en masse, in unprecedented numbers (FO's and CA's)? If you are determined to move to the ME there's an airline down the road which seems to offer a higher quality of life.

fatbus 27th Jan 2016 07:07

I guess this is a rumour network and not a fact network. no need to say anything else.

fliion 27th Jan 2016 07:39

Xiamen

We are flattered by your obsession

☺️

Aluminium shuffler 27th Jan 2016 09:05

Wasn't this discussion about bonuses/profit share? I don't see what DECs and selection failures has to do with it.:confused:

delorean79 27th Jan 2016 12:47

Does anyone remember which was the profit target for 2014?

1st half 2014 profit was 2.2 and 5.5 for the full year.

1st half 2015 profit was 3.4. If the fuel price stays this low, we may be looking to a full year profit higher to the 7.7 target.

If we do, then we may see profit share. It's that simple.

If everything goes well, and we haven't been hit by the ruble depreciation (haha), we could see a total profit from 8.0 to 9.0.

Then we just need a rule of thumb with the margin between the profit target and the actual profit from 2014 to start talking about weeks, days, hours or minutes of basic salaries!

We are looking forward for the highest profit in the history of Emirates and we may see NADA, NOTHING, NIL, RIEN, NICHTS as profit share. Let's keep our fingers crossed, for them to decide on investing part of that profit in package improvements, salary increase, steps, allowances.....

BANANASBANANAS 27th Jan 2016 12:49

I think it is impossible to call.

I guess it depends on whether they really want to acknowledge, and professionally address, the retention issue or not.

Expecting nothing, hoping for something, deserving of more, making sure I have options ready to go.

delorean79 27th Jan 2016 13:18

Found the 2014 target.

My rule of thumb: 2014 Target=3.7 Actual profit=5.5 Margin=1.8 Weeks=9

We need a 8.6 Total profit to get about 4 weeks. That means a 5.2 profit only on the second half... :eek:

I wish I could be that positive...

Let's crush some numbers. 2014 first half profit 2.2. / 2015 first half profit 3.4. That's 54% more.
2014 2nd half profit 3.3..... plus 54% more? 5.1.... mmmmm

I was right back in May, but I had the real profit results to play with...
May 2015 pprune post

Anyone with time to adjust my rule of thumb with a comparison in fuel prices during 1st and 2nd half of 2014 and 1st and 2nd half of 2015? LOL

Desert Busdriver 27th Jan 2016 18:29

Bananasx2 is spot on. FYI, don't go out and put that deposit on the 458 Italia just yet.


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