criminal record mid east airlines
 

Just a quick update on this but most job applications for foreign apps will ask for "no criminal record"

had a dui when I was 21 ( misdemeanor NOT felony ) myself over 14 years ago with NO other convictions/etc etc now flying an Ejet for a regional in the states FO.

Am I disqualified period ? Is that question more pertaining to no armed robbery or attempted murder type things ?

thanks

Any kind of arrest record regardless of a conviction makes one ineligible for a "good conduct certificate" from LEA and thusly unlikely to be considered for foreign employment.

LEA = Law Enforcement Authorites. I know this from having to get a good conduct certificate in NY for my current overseas employer and through the many applications I've made over the years to various other foreign carriers.

In the mean time, don't blow your brains out. There are decent jobs in the States if you need one. Maybe not the best money, but living in the sandbox or some polluted Chinese city is not necessarily worth what they might say they will pay you.

Suggestion
 

Seeing it was 14 years ago and a relatively minor offence why no try to obtain an Expungement, you probably qualify, good luck

What if Soakingpilot could get himself a pardon from the authorities? Would he no longer have a record?

Soaking......

Have a search on the net, depending on which state the DUI offense occurred, and the time that has lapsed since that incident, you may be able to apply for the record to be "expunged". There are plenty of good criminal defense lawyers who specialize in this field, and would be able to assist or give you some good advice or information.

Have a look at criminaldefenselawyer.com

:)

Soakinpilot,
I do not think a misdemeanor 14 years ago would hinder your chances of a ME job. Get your police/FBI file and see what comes up.

Sidenote, any mid east airlines going to hire now with just a FO on ERJ 175 time?

DUI
 

In the UAE a DUI is not a minor offence at all.
When it happens here, you'll go to jail, and once they release you, you will be deported...

Is this DUI still in yr file, or is it taken out after so many years?
If taken out, I would carefully consider ever talking about it once hired.

Good luck.
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oh its on my record for forever in the state it occured. if i cant do the uae this just quitting the bizz alltogether might be the best choice so i can stop trying to live this stupid existence.

If it is on your record, forget the ME.

I doubt it'd be a problem in Europe, and there is a lot of movement there right now.

Why not talk to an specialized lawyer first?

Once you are CONVICTED you can not get it expunged. Trust me, I've looked into the matter. Do a Google search and find out for yourself.
I never disclosed and it has not been a problem for me.

Soakingpilot just give it a try, I can't remember from when I joined here if they ask, but if they do just say no, guy on my course was on furlow they asked if he was, he said NO he told them 8 months later when he left.

I also know personally of a pilot who was in a car wreak and did a lot worse than you, actually two pilots.

Any guys from the US that can definitely say that they know for a fact that info is requested from the US authorities and given out.

I would apply, remember they will probably tell untruths at the interview as well.

Just apply, they give the impression they leave no stone unturned but believe me they do. It would be missed in any reference checks, sure of that.
If that fails ( I doubt it will), try Hong Kong Airlines

Sorry I forgot to mention..., lie through your teeth, it never happened. As previous poster mentioned they sure as hell will be lying to you.

In terms of the specialized lawyer I had essentially "the wolf" of lawyers and basically in this north east state its next to impossible to get it expunged. he said it really would have been easier if i had committed 2nd degree murder, maybe just a little armed robbery. ya know petty stuff.

the whole lying on the application though I dunno how I feel about that I mean I just feel that that could bite me in the ass royally and I have never been one to lie about anything.

Good god, just put no criminal record on the application and see what happens. If they check and find it and you don't get the job, you won't be any further behind than if you put you have a DUI and they reject you. Of course if you have to provide a clean criminal record check that could be difficult. You say it's on record in a certain state, perhaps you could have a check run in another state that wouldn't show it? There are always ways.

As far as lying on the application, after living there for a decade and being basically lied to constantly I'd have no problem whatsoever for something like this. Bite you in the ass? There are so many other things that could do that to you on a daily basis in the ME it doesn't bear worrying about. As long as you don't talk about it once hired.

If every criminal was ejected from Dubai the place would be empty.

Just sucks as it was such a silly event that just F's with my life so hardcore now.

what are the requirements these days for mid east places? and for the record the honest thought is just DO NO MENTION IT at all ?