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Kapitanleutnant 23rd Nov 2015 08:29

EK 380 vs 777... Interesting read
 
Why does Emirates use Airbus A380 planes as opposed to twin engine planes ?

White Knight 23rd Nov 2015 08:57

Quite an interesting read... There are other points though that are missed; slot constraints at places like LHR, JFK for example. And of course the ability to carry a full payload without leaving any staff passengers behind!

Mind you, with the price of Jet Fuel now the 345s would be supreme...

High Energy 23rd Nov 2015 09:15

No mention of cargo carrying capability anywhere. And to finish with 'EK only have 51 outstanding 777's on order compared to 80ish A380 is a useless fact. The 777's have been coming in thick and fast over many more years. And 150 (replacements) have been ordered too.

CAYNINE 23rd Nov 2015 10:24

More inane A vs B bulls$t, give it a break I fly aeroplanes... we all fly aeroplanes.... does it matter which, no.

White Knight 23rd Nov 2015 11:07

Caynine - I actually can't agree more and my post certainly wasn't A v B. Just adding a couple more points.. They are both great aeroplanes...

LadyMatilda 23rd Nov 2015 19:30

The 777 is an AWESOME machine. It can carry all those bags the A380 leaves behind ALL THE WAY to Hyderabad, Islamabad and all those other "...bad" places.

Enjoy it boys! You fly the best plane in the sky! :D

Wizofoz 23rd Nov 2015 20:11

Fill it and the Bus makes money for EK- though it will never make a cent for Airbus.

The question is, are there enough routes to regularly fill 120 of them?

SOPS 23rd Nov 2015 22:54

Even I have to admit...the A345 would be in its element now with the current fuel price.

Outatowner 25th Nov 2015 06:54


And of course the ability to carry a full payload without leaving any staff passengers behind!
Yes, very genuine WK, not a hint of guile there.... :=

Of course management took their staff into account when they bought a hundred of those things. And pigs will fly.

In fact - they DO!

GoreTex 25th Nov 2015 11:07

777 SEA to DXB, 140 empty seats but load restricted, nice

Schnowzer 25th Nov 2015 11:11

As most 380 flights are ULRs, you need at least 3 per route so that swallows up a fair few.

What is the biggest the fleet numbers are planned to get to? Many of the orders are replacements. We must be due to ditch the test 380s soon followed by the older jets in short order.

bogeydope 25th Nov 2015 11:55

That's only because there will be about 30-40 tons of fruit in the hold.......:D:D

GoreTex 25th Nov 2015 14:01

so the 777 can take fruits but not passengers from SEA to DXB lol

bogeydope 25th Nov 2015 15:54

You can LOL all you want, but I guess those decisions, are above both of our paygrade.........:uhoh:

harry the cod 25th Nov 2015 17:33

I agree with Bogey. At the end of the day, who cares which is 'best'. Each one has it advantages and disadvantages. 380 is spacious, quiet and has probably the best rosters. Downside are the 400 faces that watch you take a dump and the crap service from 2 month old clueless cabin crew. Less team spirit too on the super. We get paid the same and treated the same regardless of which machine we operate. It's the quality of life that matters most and the 380 is probably out in front on that score.

So, to answer Schnowzer's question, I believe that with another 72 A380's to come, all 150 will be in service alongside over 200+ B777 variants. The 777X will replace older 777s from 2019 as and when with a possible new type being ordered within the next 1-2 years. Whilst the Super may well take some more premium destinations off the Boeing within the next few years, I envisage more and more mixed types on the same route depending on load factors, especially when the new generation Boeings arrive. It's sheer size will inevitably restrict the 380 from some of our less popular destinations but without doubt it will begin to be used more and more on high density routes such as India, Thailand and Asia/Australia, especially in the new 2 class config.

In 5 years from now I'd not be too surprised if the rosters across the fleets had far less disparity than is currently the case.

Harry

natops 25th Nov 2015 21:50

Thats what Im thinking Harry...

Wizofoz 26th Nov 2015 01:53

IF Airbus don't decide to stop throwing good money after bad and stop making the thing.....

fatbus 26th Nov 2015 02:18

Emirates CEO lets the cat out of the bag - eTurboNews.com

up to 300 by 2025, 70 additional in 10 years. You can find other articles stating similar numbers 280 to 300 by 2025

donpizmeov 26th Nov 2015 04:26

That's only because there will be about 30-40 tons of fruit in the hold.......:D:D

Goretex,

I don't think anyone has taught the John Deere fellas how to read a loadsheet.

CaptainChipotle 26th Nov 2015 12:01

Until its revealed that the company surreptitiously picked out the "best of the best" from the selection to inject into the Airbus fleet under the premise that only the best could fly the big bird I'm going to continue to shake my head at the people who think WHAT they fly defines THEM as an aviator.

You fly a big plane, but you cry like a girl. And that accounts for A and B.

And Muttley I had a good chuckle at your comment. Because it's true.

Moving on...


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