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The Guru 27th Feb 2015 10:51

vfenext,

I think you are missing Point No. 5....they won't be gone in 2 years!! :hmm::hmm::hmm:
EK has a history with retiring aircraft. Just look at the past with the A310, and then look at the A345 and B772 as current examples. :suspect::suspect::suspect:

The G.

Mr Good Cat 27th Feb 2015 11:23


Since the 330/340 fleet will be gone in less than 2 years any DEC only has to endure a short amount of time doing night turns before going left seat 380 or 777. Boeing guys have all the current 330 destinations to look forward to so I'd say the offer is not as bad as people seem to think.
...and that is what the A330 DECs were told in 2012.

I highly doubt the A330s will be retired by 2016. They simply don't have a replacement aircraft for the lower capacity routes. These also tend to be the routes that don't show a demand for the latest hardware and comfort standards so no need to refurbish the interiors.

The cancellation of the A350 suggests this. It will be a while before a decision is made on a replacement, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the A330 NEO come in to fill this void pending an eventual 350/787 order.

Please don't go promising 330 new hires an upgrade to the 380/777 in only 2 years. Broken dreams 'n' all. :sad:

Machspeed 27th Feb 2015 15:44


Originally Posted by nakbin330 (Post 8882581)
From one of the talking heads at yesterday's wash up, quote "we are not hiring DECs, we're just advertising for them", unquote.

New joiners going through the medical yesterday in the elevator at HQ. Said they were told they would upgrade in 4 years or less.

General Dogsbody 27th Feb 2015 22:22

In Fairness to recruitment I don't think thats what they said, that may be what the new guys Heard. I imagine they said that command's are currently around 4 years and some are getting it at less then that.

Which is True as long as you joined 4 years ago.. they don't tell you that bit.

TATA 28th Feb 2015 06:10

Well said , DEC does not mean stopping upgrade for FO in fact that is a commercial business at the end of the day . It's overrides persona
Desire, the airline is massive will absorb both DEC and FO to Capt, stop being selfish ,and blaming the management for a thing

ManaAdaSistem 28th Feb 2015 08:06


In Fairness to recruitment I don't think thats what they said, that may be what the new guys Heard. I imagine they said that command's are currently around 4 years and some are getting it at less then that.

Which is True as long as you joined 4 years ago.. they don't tell you that bit.
But 4 years ago you all said it would take 7-8 years to command. The recruiters are more correct in their predictions than you guys.

TransitCheck 28th Feb 2015 09:50

Tatas

That's easy to say when you already have your command.....because you worried about your career and progression when you were an FO were you selfish also?

There are 3 things a company should never play with regarding their current employees:

1. Career progression
2. Money (goes hand in hand with career progression)
3. Quality of life (scheduling issues)

Am NOT Sure 28th Feb 2015 20:31

Thank you TransitCheck

The three items I struggle to tick are ancient history in this region :D

Capn Rex Havoc 1st Mar 2015 03:39

A330 DECs will help senior 330/340 Captains get released to the A380.

Senior F/Os on the 330/340 are going to the 380 anyway and therefore DEC's are
not going to affect them.
I don't think this round of DEC intakes for the 330 is going to be so disruptive to 330 F/Os.
They have just reduced the the command requirement on the 380 for F/Os from 2500 hrs to 2000 hrs.


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