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Actual take-home salary DEC Flydubai
Could somebody please inform me of the actual take-home salary for new DEC's at FlyDubai, including per diems, accommodation allowances etc...?
I have heard figures of around 72.000 Dirham, and ppjn is also quoting such numbers but want to be sure before applying... Thanks a lot, D. |
I make just under 70K a month as line captain at EK after 12years with housing allowance and flight pay. This figure excludes education allowance and Provident fund contribution from Company (15%). I know it's not answering your question specifically but thought i'd mention it for comparison as EK are generally assumed to offer the better package. If your numbers are correct, this would blow that theory out of the Gulf!
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Since no one responded yet I can only say what I heard as I'm an f/o. Cptn pay including all allowances and 80 block hrs is around 54K. IIRC (excl school allowances)
It will point you in the right direction if non of our captains replies. |
So called A scalers make around 55-60k per month total depending on flight pay and no training pay in that also. I guess knock off around 10% of that as transport and housing for later joiners was reduced a bit.
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As a DEC now you should get around 24000 Dhs basic , 15000 Dhs housing allowance , 11550 Dhs ( 70 hours ) flight pay 2500 Dhs transport allowance.
So it is around 53000 Dhs/month. That is for 70 hours and on top of that you will get school allowances for up to 3 kids until they get 18 years old. I am not sure about the exact amount as I am not concerned any more and so don't get it but it is around 45000 Dhs to 55000 Dhs per year depending if primary school or college. |
Thank you all for the info!
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Fwiw, I am an 'A' scale 'line' Captain at flydubai and my per-month is as follows:
Salary: 26,705 Dhs Housing: 16,000 Dhs Transport: 4,000 Dhs On top of that there's Flight Pay: 165 Dhs per block hour and, based on the last 5 years here, I typically do about 850 block hours per year. If you 'do the math', that equates to an average per month (throughout the year) of: 58,392 Dhs net. |
58,392 Dhs net. |
Actual pay answered..
DEC PAY
as of 01 August, 2014 Base pay. 25,225 Housing. 15,000 Trans. 2,600 Flying. 165/ hr School allowance. Primary: 40,000 each for 3 children Secondary. 55,000 each for 3 children. |
mutt: the maths works like this...
2,100 sq ft (unfurnished) apartment in JLT (and very nice it is too, though I'll admit that we've been very lucky with our awesome landlord!) + Rental car + DEWA + Palm Cooling + Internet for house & mobile devices = 11,650 Dhs per month. We also put 10,000 Dhs pm into our investment accounts (all of which have been doing very nicely; though I hasten to add that they're not based in the UAE). Accordingly, every month, the wife & I are left with only a paltry 36,742 Dhs for the (other) essentials of life, and therein I just don't know how we manage?!.... but, as we're quite frugal, the money just keeps on mounting up. It's all along been our opinion that the whole modus operandi & ethos of Dubai was to get in, grab what you can, then foxtrot oscar asap. So yes, saving money is is doable here, but the true reward is to be had on the day when you fly out for the last time, kicking the sand off your shoes as you do so, whilst hopefully headed for somewhere truly nice, and quietly chuckling to yourself whilst you think of all the freedom (financial & otherwise) that you now have. :ok: |
Why has Flydubai introduced a B scale? Are they finding more applicants than positions?
Can someone tell me the take home for FOs. Is there a B scale for FOs as well? |
They have no problem to find applicants because most of the first officers joining now are coming from the turboprops and there are no a lot of companies "offering " the opportunity to get a B737-800 from a ATR or Q400...
On top of that , due to the rapid growth , these first officers will have the opportunity to upgrade on the left seat within 2 to 4 years depending on previous experience and ability to pass the selection. So if you compare the salary of a regional pilot in the US plus the numbers of years he will have to wait before getting a chance to seat on the left , FZ got with the state only a big pool of applicants. If you consider also the number of European flying regional dreaming of flying a jet and the Brazilian dreaming of leaving their unsafe country you got the picture... Thousands of applicants |
Transport jock ,
you are right they prefer internal upgrade BUT if you look at the seniority number of the upgrade now you will realize that they will be soon short of internal applicants because of the rate of new aircraft arriving and the minimum requirement to apply for the upgrade. Many guys who are now in seniority to apply don't meet the requirement. |
Your take home pay will be the same with the vast majority of captains (if DEC) and nearly all of the f/o's. As a junior pilot in your seat however, you can expect to work nearly double the duty hours of your senior colleagues with approximately the same number of block flight hours. For example a roster of about 65 block hours will mean you will probably have a duty time of about 120-125 hours, whereas the duty of a senior pilot will be around 75-85. And that is because you will fly double sector days, and multiple short sectors at the middle of the night, and you will get minimum days off, typically 8, maximum 9, whilst others, as admitted in some other FZ thread, get 20-22.
As it stands now if DEC you will NEVER be able to get a descent roster since all those people above you in the seniority list will eventually upgrade, be more senior than you and basically you will get all the leftover flights. There are some people in this forum that when someone talks about this kind of injustices and many others, like a fine tuned choir, they will tell you off, and that's what is supposed to be. Recently there was a rumor that the bidding system that favors the high seniority pilots will change. I think these people got scared so they even asked the COO to send an email pointing out that the bidding system will not change! :D And you will see them, at around 8 a.m when you just came back from a night duty feeling destroyed, freshly shaven with wet look hair, ready for their long day flight after their block of 5-10 days off! Good luck!:ok: |
Thats called paying your dues no?
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Wrong!.... That's called Slave Labor!!
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It makes me laugh :ok: so much all the made up stories from some people on this website...
You can not believe how scared :eek: the most senior pilots were when rumours about the change in the bidding system started :) And of course the COO under pressure of the most senior pilots :E sent a memo to all pilots saying that the bidding system will stay as it is :\ Do you really think that the COO or anybody else will do anything under pressure of a few privilege pilots against the mass of the other ones !!!! := Stop being frustrated do your job , flying the plane , and start to have a life you will be a lot happier even with the same roster :ok::ok::ok: |
For any DEC type rated thinking on joining Fly Dubai I will give you my perspective.I have been flying in China now for almost 5 years and recently had a very difficult time passing my medical in China.I decided to give Fly Dubai a serious look and also Dubai.The interview process was similar as described on PPrune thread and other internet gouge.I interviewed at CTC in South Hampton and stayed at the Dibden Training center.The applicant will pay for all of the expenses for this interview round.I won’t go into details here as there is plenty of good gouge already about this process.The interview consisted of the Group exercise, Computer Based Games, one on one interview and the next day a full up 737-800 Simulator assessment. I passed and was invited back to Dubai at Fly Dubai expense for another company interview.This was a more casual process with a 1 day interview and medical.This was a good chance to investigate Dubai and talk with a few Fly Dubai pilots.I was offered an employment offer from Fly Dubai but told to expect about 6 months delay for the next available class date.Most Captains I spoke with at Fly Dubai liked Fly Dubai but were getting burned out with Dubai and the high cost of living.Most Captains said they were able to save only about $5,000 after all expenses.I was only able to stay a few days on this trip but I returned again and spent a few more days with an Emirates buddy and flew on a buddy pass so all I really spent was time investigating Dubai.My comparison may be my own perceptions but in the end I decided to remain at my current job in China.Realize China has many shortcomings but has improved dramatically in the past 5 years on all fronts.I can easily save about $12,000 per month in China on a 6 week on 16 day off contract whereas in Dubai you only get 42 days off per year and will save only 5-7K per month.The work in Dubai for a new joiner is mostly night flying and lots of 4 sector turns or India flights whereas the more senior guys at Fly Dubai do most of the efficient and desireable trips and work much less.All the FOs at Fly Dubai will eventually have better schedules than a new DEC as they will have a higher PBS bid number when they upgrade to Captain.It will be a very long time before you will get a decent schedule as a new joiner DEC.The housing in Dubai has increased dramatically in the past year and now is very pricey and difficult to obtain decent housing.I found the prices in Dubai to be similar to Hong Kong and expect to pay about $5K per month for decent accommodations.My base salary in China is about 17K per month and bonuses and overtime put me around 20K per month all inclusive.The off time I receive is 96 days off per year vs. 42 at Fly Dubai.Benefits at Fly Dubai are better than China but most Captains I spoke with had complaints also about medical, travel, education allowances etc. in Dubai.Housing in China is quite cheap and you can rent a decent 3 bedroom apartment for about $1200 per month vs. $5K in Dubai.Commuting in Dubai is quite a hassle compared to here in China where I ride the company provided bus to the airport about 20 mins. From my house and returns me to my house upon trip completion.I have no need for a car in China as public transport is quite good and commuting is very simple.Duty days are long in domestic China flying but the Intra Asian flying is great with layovers in most large Asian cities, some are 30 hour layovers.In the end I passed my medical in China and purchased a good Loss of License Insurance to cover me in the event of a medical failure here in China.Having passed my medical I ultimately decided to just remain here and work a few more years if I am able.The weather and climate here is quite nice as I live in a coastal Southern China city which has good air quality, one of the few in China and quite nice temperate weather year round vs. the dreaded 4 months of extreme heat in Dubai.For non type rated or FOs I believe Fly Dubai can be quite a decent gig as it will give you new opportunity but for type rated DECs. I would take a good look at the better contracts in China.Best of luck on your flying careers and decisions.
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Thanks for a good post.
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If one reads previous posts from now happy people in flydubai, then the difference in attitude towards the company is evident. Everyone was ready to leave, frustration was high, and morale was very low.
And that at least united all the pilots to endure things. Suddenly the SAME people that were accusing the company on nearly everything, now made a 180 degree turn. Like magic, it doesn't matter any more if they have to fly to Kabul were there are frequent attacks on the airport, or into any other war zone, or if education allowance is insufficient, or anything else. And all that is because the same people that were moaning and were unhappy, and I say quite rightly so, now, get the best roster of their carreers (better than their back home ex-company). And that leaves the less fortunate people and the new joiners in a very difficult situation. For as long as the company does not realize that it is in it's interests to make the situation for every pilot as less difficult as possible then it will be never able to attract experienced aviators. They will come, they will see, and they will leave, so far it happened quite a few times that I know of. P.s. @ dubaigong: I am sure you have an insight to what I say that is true, and please do not feel offended, you or anyone else in the same position like you. It's not personal, rather an effort to make FZ a better place for everyone. |
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