If you read the article properly you will see that there is no restriction on flights above 20000ft over Iraq. Read before you stir!!!

I did read the full article, so get off your high horse. The Malaysian plane was flying above the restricted airspace too. Missiles have been shown to penetrate up to 50,000 '. What about driftdown, depressurization, or flying into Erbil, Basra, Baghdad. Perhaps you just want to look the other way. :ugh:

Obviously you didn't read the article correctly.
The FAA have not prohibited flights over Iraq - they are permitted with altitude restriction. Perhaps that is based on the type of SAMs that are in the region. Many other carriers, including some American ones, fly through Iraq everyday, so obviously the level restriction is relevant.
Also don't get uppity with me when I point out what the actual article says.:ok:

So, highflyer, carry on pretending there's no threat in any of the places you fly, huh? Carry on keeping your head down and the bosses happy, fella.

New missile threat raises fears for airline passengers | The Times

This story running in a separate thread.


Subsequent to my post I note that Emirates have taken the initiative to stop all Iraq overflights.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/busine...cle4159432.ece

Yes Oceanic but it seems that Qantas think they know better.

My earlier post alludes to a major concern evident in many carriers run primarily on "affordable safety", as does this link below, for the benefit of Cockney Steve also:

"(MAS's) apparent ignorance of everyday operational consideration of safety planning is breathtaking."

I don't have immediate answers but just hope we learn from past areas of dereliction and prevent from happening again.
One thing we do know is that these guided missiles capable of >60,000+ feet are now out there... and in the hands of wallies, who knows.

Happy landings:ok:

While some posters have named various supposedly more reputable airlines to claim that EK et al in the ME were deliberately recklessly endangering your lives because they are penny pinchers...do you include LH, KLM, AF in the same category? SQ?

Plenty of first class airlines who's safety culture no-one would doubt were flying those routes, (ok some may not include AF in that category...) so it's not just a ME thing. If LH and KLM thought it was good to me, that suggests to me the level of risk wasn't well known rather than reckless negligence.

I'm not saying that means it's OK, just the way it's being used to bash these airlines by suggesting only shoddy operators who don't value safety properly were doing this.

It is riskier to drive in the ME than to fly over Irak :eek:

They have a fix

They are changing the company name

Do EK flights DXB-DAR and vice versa track over Somalian airspace? Surely this isn't that safe either?

Are their double digit SAMs in working order in Somalia?

So Sir Tim (y'know, some names just don't lend themselves to knighthood, "Sir Tim" brings to mind a Monty Python character galloping around on a broomstick horse), Sir Tim says no more Iraq flights.

No More Iraq Overflights says Clark - 28 July 2014

But errmm still business as usual with all the European flights routing merrily through Iraq as of today, five days later.

Always, with the lies. Hopefully the pax are blissed-out on their free booze and not watching the ICE map.

Perhaps no one told the dispatchers? :ugh: