Bouhooooooooooh .... :{

This leaves us John Deere drivers some freighters for the distant US. You know, the IAH, ATL and then a SEA with some passengers and the 15 ton freight trucked up from LAX .......

It hurts my pride as much as the eye of every US citizen seeing more and more 380 on US airports, i freely admit.
But, as long as we fill the increased seats with more low fare passengers, as long as EK's final yield-percentage gets smaller every year and as long as we don't get compensated for real living cost and inflation every year, i will happily stay put, or even have to put my name on the dugong list, just like fliion.

Bouhoooooooooh .... :{

So is 60 tons payload a full load of pax in A380, sounds low?

I can't really see what the fuss is about personally.

In time the 380 and the 777 will both be doing its fair share of turns, short trips and ULRs too.

It's the possibility of more fifth freedom routes, that could see Boeings sitting along side 380s at distant destinations for some time to come.

FlyingCroc

I'm sure you are smart enough to work it out yourself using standard M/F/C/I weights and standard Baggage allowance weights for F/J/Y.

:ok:

Flying Croc....

On a normal day, the A380 will take a full load of pax and cargo without any issues to the USA west coast. We do it now to LAX with plenty of room to spare. Sometimes up to 20-25 tons on MTOW to spare which could be used on fuel if wx conditions required.

IAH is about 1-2 hours longer then LAX (worse case) so the answer is yes, they can carry a full load. We will just have to use this spare 20-25 tones on additional fuel for increased flight time.

Having said that, if the wx is dodgy on arrival, which requires additional contingency, and you happen to be maxed out on that particular day, then yes, you "may" have to take a hit on payload. But that's no different then a B777. Couldn't tell you how many times thats happened to me over the years on the B777. Not a dig, just the way it is.

EK would not put the 380 on the route if it could not take a full load of pax and bags. Children , it makes money, regardless of what the pilot experts blab on about the 777 and fuel burn and freight.

fatbus - Did you leave the word 'not' out?

Freudian slip! he he...

Thanks,,,fixed