Fartmaster…. That's funny!! One of those "priceless" looks on their face!!

Aircav…. That's exactly right… and is the whole gist of my original post.

Actually I didn't even mean to involve the BMI thing on my first post as I've only had the issue once in my career here. But even the many times I've been below the BMI, I've still had to go take this test and that test and my medical was essentially held ransom which is simply BS!!

Kap

You do have some rights, piss poor as they are, but they're planted deep down in the dark depths of the group world website. Obviously positioned for strategic purposes, but either read them or print them out for your next medical and you'll get nothing more than a bend over and cough.
:ok:

Any hint or guide though that underbrush? (thanks!!)

Wow… I hadn't heard that they were getting pressure from Fleet on this. But why would this surprise me at this outfit.

You're right, it is none of the doctors business about our so called "productivity". Wonder how the boys are handling that one?

It just keeps getting better and better……

K

So. On the one hand, the docs are trying to fail pilots by doing extra tests. But then they are cooperating with fleet to get you to work when you are not well? What am I missing here?

If you feel so strongly, write to FR. Write to the GCAA. Never heard of the docs sending us back to work unwell due to fleet. Their moral is pants. They won't go the extra millimetre for the company. Let alone the mile.

A rumour site, yes. Perhaps substantiate the rumour!!

"Their moral is pants"

Are we talking frilly French nicker type, or those huge granny pants? I am just trying to gain a better understanding of the whole situation. No perversion at all....honest.


the Don

LOL Don,

Sorry I must be fatigued! I will go to the clinic. Hopefully they will test my prostate.... as they do ALL these unnecessary tests....

I can enjoy laughing at myself unlike a few other posters here.

I did mean morale.

Happy Landings

The only "moral" pants would be something along the line of a chastity belt. Speaking personally, I am only interested in "immoral" pants.

Worn by women.

Not sure that all the Docs are like you describe Kap.

Have had a different Dr every year for 12 years. And that includes that period where we had to go twice a year.

Only one has been a pain in the ar$e with lectures and rants. All the others have been very good and brief.

A retired director of AME's in Oz has recently been quite critical of how the department there is cracking down on some silly areas that are popular at the time.
He argues that pilots self certify every time they turn up for work, that they are fit to fly. Yet in one 30 minute appointment, once a year, with an AME can have them lose their medical for some minor and correctable ailment.

I think most Dr's here are quite pragmatic in their view of how it all works.
And l'm not sure about any pressure from fleet.

Have a look on the portal under medical and read the Dr's bios and make up your own mind.

halas

I agree..the docs, for the most part, are excellent. Especially considering how understaffed they and the fact that they are just as caught in the big machine as everyone else.

The 'system' is broken but the Doctors themselves do a great job considering!

You can download CAAP 19 Aeromedical from the GCAA website. 193 pages of all the requirements for a medical including what tests need to be done or not.

I know several guys who take a copy along with them and place it on the desk to refer to during the medical and politely decline non-required tests :ok:

As a private pilot with current Class 2 EASA, FAA and CASA medicals and a long expired GCAA medical I recently went to a local AME who has all those certifications primarily to renew my FAA and EASA medicals (another year to go on my CASA).... I thought for an extra 250 Dhs I would renew my GCAA medical since my GCAA PPL is still valid...even though private flying here is now very limited to LSAs only it seems.... Anyway I left it 1 month too late for a renewal so I was told it would be treated as an initial (requiring a chest X-ray and drug screening)....so far so bad....then I was told that the GCAA rules changed in Sept this year and as a result since I was 1. over 50, 2. Male and 3. have a neck size of 43cm I would need to take a sleep study.... The AME referred to the new rules and said they make no distinction between classes of medical....so the pilot a 4 seat piston single in private operations is treated the same as an A380 captain....needless to say I declined to proceed and left with my new FAA and EASA medicals .... The bit that got my goat was that the GCAA apparently were trying to align their medicals with EASA....and yet I passed my EASA with flying colours!