Dirigible - The ILA article from Flight Global is dated Sept. 2012. The SIA article from SIA is dated Feb 2011.

"It appears that a fleet lock has effectively been instigated on the Airbus fleet, without any notification to the pilot body."

Yep very bad!
Won't be surprise if they propose transfert A330/340 to B777 next year when more airbus aircrafts have been phasing out...
It seems that they don't know how to transfert people logicaly.

Interesting assertion Ex-380-by your response to Bypass you are effectively saying that a current 777 Captain could not pass a 380 conversion-based on what exactly????

His ego is not super enough? :}

"At any rate, it is the senior pilots on the 330/340 who have been shafted the most by the 777 to 380 captain transfers."

I beg to differ....I think it's the senior F/O's on the 380 that have been shafted the most! While the "senior pilots" on the 330/340 fleet wait for their move, at least they wait as Captains.

The senior F/O's on the 380 (some who have been here 6+ yrs) are waiting and ready, only to be told, yes, yes,...Wait!

Don't worry....we are talking with our Union Rep tomorrow! :ugh:!

The main reason for the 777 captains is the lack of 330/340 captains who have the requirements for the 380 i.e 3000 hours LHS EK type. There are only 30 odd line captains who have the hours and these all have courses planned in the next few months.
The 380 F/o's are being generally screwed I think they should be given the chance to go back to the 330 for upgrade but with the number of 380 deliveries it's not going to happen. Upgrades will be very few and far between as the training capacity is not there... The training dartment has been told no outsourcing of training.

The 3000 LHS EK requirement is arbitrary BS. Eliminate that gem of a management decision and, voila, problem solved. But that involves someone admitting they were wrong in upper mgt, never happen.

So what about the 330 Captains that were fos on the 380 previously. Most of them have close to 2500 hours on the 380. Will they be considered? It would be a nice short "cheaper" course and help towards the unobtainable profit target for next year!

Why the need to transfer from the 777 to the 380? I thought there would be a long line of bus guys waiting to join! Or are the recruitment team not getting the numbers/talent they expected?

Yeah, the new joiners are lining up in droves for a shot at that 6 year upgrade on the Bus while the 777 guys are getting called in 3

Magic Carpet..... that does not deter a guy looking for a job in EK. A mere 6 years to a command on a A380...not bad

Expat pilots generally come to the back side of the world to advance their careers and accelerate career progression.

We don't come to the desert to take the slow road.

If guys want to be patient and play the waiting game, it's best to do that at home. Plenty of slow upgrades and glacial progression where most of us came from.

. . . but I drift from the topic of the thread, which is 777 to 380.

And there is absolutely no provision for guys wanting to go from Airbus to Boeing (for say, destinations, or to upgrade years earlier).

Bottom line for the Airbus guys is, the Boeing pilots are able to come over and mount your newest & best birds, but you are not allowed to touch any of theirs.

What a deal . . . .

From youngest FO to an A380 captain in 6 years or so is not slow. How did you come up with that thought?
The company can move people from one fleet to the other at their will. They will first ask for volunteers. If none come forward another arrangement is make. There are plenty of volunteers for the A380 here.

Does anyone know how many 777 Capts are going to the 380?
Anyhow, I'm staying where I am.

Oz

When was the deadline for the 380 applicatio and how many applied?

Calm down! Rumour has it that there will be a few that will be forced to go to the guzzler ... You'll get your turn.

Ceterum censeo Platinum esse delendam

At the moment it's 32 777 Captains to the 380 by the end of June I believe.

....and they are not being forced.

tz

Last I heard was 40, 3rd & 4th courses this month, 5th next.

I also understand more to come because there's no recruitment on to the 330/340 fleet.

319 anyone :E