Don, I might be in a situation in a couple of years where I'll get a command ahead of more senior F/Os because of the different fleets we have been assigned. When and if that happens I will not go on here and tell the disgruntled, and may I add rightly so, F/Os to "man up"...

But you would take the command none the less. Do you now understand why you need to "man up" when you complain about a DEC doing that to you?

FOs who were shafted in 2003/4 by DECs can complain, as they were lied to. FOs that were shunted to the 380 as their peers were not experienced enough to go, and now have to wait another 4ish years to command (nine in the company), as they watch the less experienced peers already have command on the 330, can complain. Just sayin.

The Don

Swan Man
 

I personally know 5 DEC Ryanair Captains that have joined EK in recent months and all of them have passed.

I personally know of in the region of 50 first officers that have joined EK in the last year and a half and everyone of them passed aswell.

I take what you say with a large pinch of salt.

P.S. The majority of DEC Ryanair Captains that joined EK would not have paid for their type ratings, I would be surprised if any did. A lot of them would have been in FR long before that started.

Oh gawd, why does this continually descend into the usual drivel about whats fair, reasonable or promised???
We work for EK, its their train set, they do with it what they please, either accept it or head elsewhere, wasn't that made pretty clear from the beginning?
The only constant here is change, and you can tell when you are being lied too because the perpetrators lips are moving.
As for the 380 vs 777 thing, my 5 year old likes the games in Y on the new 777's over the Boos equivalent, and the last pax flight I did was subbed on the 777 as the 380 went lame in DXB...again:E

B@gga I have to agree with Falcon.

The don

It was pretty clear on this website. You wouldn't move yourself and your family halfway around the world based on what the recruiters told you without doing your own research would you?

You would? Oh.....

When I joined in 06 I was aware-as was everyone that I joined with- that EK had-and would-recruit DEC's. I didn't agree with the policy, but nobody made me join-I chose too. As Don has previously said, no one has not known this since 02/03 ish. If someone joined who didn't know this, quite frankly I wouldn't want to be in their aeroplane as clearly they have no SA!! :ugh: