Another 380 AOG in NRT
 

Incident: Emirates A388 at Tokyo on Oct 21st 2012, asymmetric flaps

Bad days for the busses at EK.
guess the profit share goes Airbus(t) this year

Are the childish ones at EK going to start a thread every time an aircraft goes AOG. Grow up FFS.

I don't know, I think that childish guy over at Aviation Herald does a pretty good job.

Anyway, the new rumour from the bouncy castle is that all the A380s will be parked and become the World's Largest MacDonalds. Opening day will see a fireworks display which is a little too long and a concert featuring earnest lip-synching by Lionel Ritchie. The much-vaunted number of seats will provide good cash flow as all the clients munch on their Happy Meals. It will operate at a loss but not as large a loss as the quixotic mission of trying to keep the device airborne.

French fries will be served with mayonnaise.

The Happy Meal toy will be a miniature A380 but the wheels will fall off before the kids can get it home.

@vfenext

So it's childish.

OK, please state when your honor deems it worthy enough, or when do the peasants of aviation dare publishing a incident?
I hope an emergency declared due to flight control problems, 11 tires deflated upon a high speed landing might trigger your consent.

If a new aircraft stirs up such an interest with all the bells and whistles around its performance, might and so forth, it has to bear a little more publicity.
It's the same fate shared with stars: Paparazzis waiting, the public loving any news. No goodies without the downside.

I bet a thousand dirtyhams that any same incident with a 787 would get similar attention, and for that matter, here it would even happen concerning a T7 ......

Poo happens.

Well handled, good decision to go around. Safe landing.

Incident - Yes.
Accident - No.

Life goes on.... :rolleyes:

The hubris of EK and some of the (ex?)A380 pilots regarding the whole A380 program is probably why the (multiple, fairly serious, closely-spaced, never-ending) AOG incidents get the attention they do. Perhaps if the A380 wasn't trumpeted about quite so much, it would be easier to resist the temptation to point out its many issues. Human nature and all...

Kudos to the crew for handling it so well. (NRT)

Like I said Glofish, childish to the extreme! You didn't publish anything, just posted a link which was expressly designed to have a poke at the 380 and stir up more stupid comments about it's reliability. The actions of a peasant as you said!

Ok, flaps locked at pos 1, return for a landing GW
500+ tons, do not use BTV to leave via the 1st
hispeed. This will cost you 14 tyres. Come to think,
this was an Englishman...

OK, I see.

Link was for general interest, fresh from the messenger, and my comment was meant as a joke, in this morbid environment.

I realise though, that we should (or shall, as per EK vocabulary) not make jokes about the mighty A380.
Why does such a reaction like yours over a joke or cynical comment ring a bell in this region?

Get a life, you 'super'.:ugh:

Is the 380 still classed as a new aircraft? thought it had been in commercial ops for over 4 years now.

Glofish,

If you didn't bring this to our attention we would never find out about it. Not a lot of info from company. You done good.

The Don

...crew removed from roster. Hope they are going to be ok. You know that this is done but always a worry in this outfit....

I think they did a good job. :D

It is easy to criticize while reading it on te computer with a cup of coffee.

Bringing it to our attention
 

The Don,
Remember, if you say too much, you end up like little brother down the road being banned from this PP brotherhood in the Capital city, No name airline!

We all can learn a lot from this Pp, and I hope these guys are back on the roster soon from their flap problem.

UAE419 went back into the bay E2 ( new bay) last night in BKK! Not sure, transponder problem???

Fire services not in attendance? Looks like they rolled up on the stand with glowing white-hot brakes. Lovely.

Taken from the A380 AMM:

WARNING: LET THE BRAKES AND THE WHEELS BECOME COOL BEFORE YOU GO NEAR THE LANDING
GEAR. DO NOT APPLY A LIQUID OR GAS FIRE EXTINGUISHER DIRECTLY ON A HOT WHEEL
OR BRAKE UNIT. IF YOU DO NOT OBEY THESE PRECAUTIONS, THERE IS A RISK OF EXPLOSION.

A. Safety Precautions
(1) Instructions after a brake overheat
(a) If a tire is inflated, do not go near the area around the wheel for approximately one hour. When you go near, go from the front or from the rear and not from the side of the wheel.
(b) Unless there is a fire, do not apply the extinguishing agent (liquid, water, mist, foam, etc.) with a spray gun on a hot tire if it is inflated.
Extinguishing agent on hot wheels can:
- Increase the time necessary for the fusible plug(s) to melt
- Prevent operation of the fusible plug(s).
You must let the brake become cool for a minimum of one hour or use the brake cooling fans (if installed).

BRK cooling Catch 22
 

It's a [I]Catch 22[I] situation, you have hot brakes and require some cooling air to be applied ASAP to avoid tire deflation. But if nobody can go near the tires for an hour then they will possibly deflate. It's something the Airbus needs to address. Why cannot airconditioning tubes be extended by a long handles so ground personnel can remain well clear?

Why did they get to hot on the first place?
Long runway. No emergency so I assume landing at max LW.

It will have to be VERY long handles. If a tire inflated to approximately 200psi pops I wouldn't want to be on the same parking stand, never mind 3 or 4 meters away. The damage that tire can do... lets not go there, it's nasty! :eek:

why is this an airbus issue , no different on any type. seem to recall a few years ago in DXB a 747-200f abort at high speed max weight. all tyres deflated and as park brake set all brakes welded together ! very expensive and a very long AOG as all axles scrap ! at the end of the day all on ground safe , also how many airports have brake cooling facilities available ? Very few , and in a hot brakes situation you would need to cool all at once to avoid deflation. Only reliable method would be brake fans ........