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puma3999 20th Feb 2007 09:28

DUI in USA 5 yrs ago, can I work in the ME?
 
5 years ago I made a mistake and got caught driving after drinking. It is a misdemeanor, I can still get a police certificate, no problems with my FAA medical. I don't drink anymore. Can I fly for living in the Middle East?

ShockWave 20th Feb 2007 12:13

Yes would be the short answer.
I don't think anyone here would even check, or care. However my experience is restricted to Dubai.

metro301 20th Feb 2007 13:15

Saudia
 
I have been in Saudi Arabia for a year and can't remember ever being asked. No one here seems to care. It isn't like the USA post 9/11 where they background check your 1st grade math scores.

xband 21st Feb 2007 01:12

Puma don't even think about possible background check that will stop you from joining EK, if you choose so.
I know EK 777 captain who has been terminated by previous employer for being seriously under influence in the cockpit. Few months later, to my surprise, he was hired by EK.
Enough said.

2lowgear 2nd Mar 2007 17:15

DUI in the US
 
Hell you'll be right at home here in the Middle East. I've seen more boozing here then any other place I've been to. As long as you have a FAA license and a 1st class medical nobody will bother you.

ironbutt57 3rd Mar 2007 06:10

It probably does in fact turn up when the country you apply for residence conducts their police check, but as mentioned above, is not disqualifying...if all else fails, then apply as executive vp at US Airways...Doug would like the company:}

ratpoison 3rd Mar 2007 10:10


I don't drink anymore.
Hahahahahahahahahhaha :D

black_falcon 3rd Mar 2007 14:26

No problem
 
United Arab Emirates has a 0 tolerance when it comes to drivers who drink. A friend of mine went to the interview at EK and he said it was mentioned that if you got caught no matter the percent on liquor and driving you would go to jail for a month and when you got out your job would still be there! :confused: So go figure. They don't care.

micocamo 22nd Dec 2007 20:22

US DUI OK at EK?
 
I am interested in a slot at EK. I got a DUI in the US almost 10 years ago? Where does EK stand on stuff like this? Should I spent the time & money going to DXB?

harry the cod 22nd Dec 2007 23:40

Well, it all depends on one thing. Was the DUI for driving a car or a plane?

If it's the former, you should be fine. Why dont you apply and find out. If it's not OK your application will be rejected before you come to DXB anyway!

Harry

micocamo 23rd Dec 2007 00:13

Re US DUI
 
Thank you Harry. Forgot to say it was a car DUI. Interestingly, the app only refers to a criminal record. In the US, there are seperate and distinct questions regarding alcohol related offenses. I felt they were only refering to "criminal criminal" offenses and I answered "No" to the question. (ie...No, I do not have a criminal record.) I have applied, recently passed the MD11 eval and am due to get DXB dates in January. I am more than willing to go to DXB for the next step, but I am trying to learn more so that I don't surprise them or get accused of omitting anything. I answered the app to my best understanding.

Thoughts now? Really appreciate the input. Not really guilty of the offense, but thats another story all together. Dont trust lawyers.

Dubai or bust!!!!

harry the cod 23rd Dec 2007 00:28

Come to Dubai and be economical with the truth. They will be!

Seriously, I doubt they'd even ask unless you draw attention to it and it hardly counts as a criminal offence unless you did some 'bird'.

Harry

micocamo 23rd Dec 2007 01:00

Thx again, Harry
 
No jail time.

What about how its addressed on medicals? Per question "U" on all FAA medicals, I have to admit to my dewey every six months. (ie...Previously reported.) I would hate to sell all i own, move entire family 8K miles and get the boot cuz I mislead the company. Can't imagine that would look great in the upgrade interview.

Again, really appreciate your thoughts. I have been tossing this around a ton lately, and ever opinion counts. Lot riding on this.

Dubai or bust!!!!

CAYNINE 24th Dec 2007 04:54

Harry has the right advice.

Stick with the aviation stuff, don't even hint that you have had an offence in the past and I'm sure as hell they won't ask.

The problems most people encounter are the ones that they bring to the notuce of those that are doing the interview.

Don't sell everything till your here or have an exit strategy, you need a little time to settle in and know the pitfalls and the positives, then you can clean out the closet.

Welcome and enjoy the experience.

ironbutt57 24th Dec 2007 06:26

I will echo Caynine's words of advice to anybody moving to any job in the Gulf, put your stuff in a storage unit..get settled here, make sure wifey and kids are happy(most important!) just having the stuff at home is sometimes a nice thing for mommy and the kids to know..who knows you may want to ship it here at a later date if you buy a place..some attachment to home is a good thing.:ok:

mensaboy 26th Dec 2007 01:36

Micocamo,

Just out of curiousity........ can't one get a pardon for such an offence after 10 years? I know it is possible in some countries, just wondering if it is possible in the States. I imagine you have looked into that already though.

Username1 26th Dec 2007 15:37

DUI would fall under the category of a traffic offence as opposed to a criminal offence. If it happened 10 yrs ago and you have been employed till now, then I dont think this will cause ur application to be declined. To be granted an airside pass, the you need to have been security vetted and yes they will be looking into criminal offences and dates... Otherwise you have nothing to worry about.:cool:

Merry xmas and have a happy new year.

micocamo 31st Dec 2007 11:33

FAA
 
FAA medical question "U" asks if you have ever had a DUI. Once you say yes....its a forever thing here (regardless of which state you reside).

tknapp 26th Jan 2008 01:19

Has anyone gone through the interview and got hired lately with a dui

EGGW 26th Jan 2008 08:03

Its not a criminal offence for goodness sake. The US regs don't apply here, durrrrrrrrrrr :ugh::ugh::ugh:

EGGW


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