Qatar Salary
 

Can a Qatar pilot inform me about salary
Understand USD8100 first year. Does it go up after few years or not?
Trying to get the numbers before joining.

Thanks.

You need to be more specific, F/O, Capt? Which fleet etc.

FO salary first as far as i'm concerned. Is it true that the same salary applies to any fleet 330, 320, 777,...

the salaries @ qatar
 

first pilot salaries goes by rank SO, FO, Captain. And then depending on the hours you fly the pay changes. e.g. 777 pilots will end up making more because they're being paid to sleep. and will fly more than 75hrs a month easily. Exchange rate is 3.65QAR=1USD

SO is fixed salary ~2700USD monthly tax free + free apartment. ~32,400/yr.

FO basic salary is ~ 6500 USD+ free apartment.
FO's get flight pay @ 90QAR/hr.
Assume 75 hr/month (75*12=900) is approx 1850USD/month.
FO monthly salary is approx 8350USD/month. Annual 100,200 USD.

CA basic salary is 9100 USD+free house.
CA's get flight pay @ 120QAR/hr.
Assume 75hrs = $2500USD/month.
CA monthly salary is approx 11,600. Annual 139,200 USD.

There are some intangibles such as free education for 3 children, medical insurance etc. But raw $$ that's roughly it. Bear in mind flight pay is only paid for flying months...so the salaries are going to be lower generally. E.g. If you take 2 months holidays a year then you will lose flight pay for 2 months.

For an F/O, I assume that 6500USD is incl all allowances and year 1? Is there no duty pay besides the flight pay? Would it make a difference if you were married? And if there a kids? It´s just to confirm.

FO basic is 21500QAR, flight pay 90QAR per hour - NO DUTY PAY.

Allowances are 1500QAR for transport and utilities (accommodation dependant is approx 400QAR - if you end up at HV you won't get any utilities allowance). Regardless of whether your married, have 1 kid or 15 - can't answer the school allowance as I don't have 'em! ;)

So as you can see its massively un-fair due to the amount of duty hours/flying hours the 320 guys do in comparison to the 777. For example, a 320 does Dubai and then sits on the ground for 5 hours during the turnaround (which happens on a hell of a lot of intra gulf sectors on 320) and therefore you make 180QAR for an 8 hour day whereas the 777 guys will get all 720QAR even if they are asleep onboard, multiply that by 10 flights - BIG difference! :ugh:

Do you get paid during training? Is it full pay or else?

From what I have been told you get paid from Day 1 of your training course.

Qatar F/O $8,100 + $410 (transport allowance)

A320 First Officer (AZL) - 1401287965 - Flightglobal Jobs

Could anyone shed some light on deductions made to f/o salary , for non typed joiners. I understand that after 3 years you should get 50,000 usd. But over how many months is that deducted? 36 or less? And after all the deductions what could you expect in your bank account for say an avg months flying ($8100) for arguments sake.:confused:

2 year-bond according to the link above (AZL)

Newty has the numbers right, coz 8100 is assuming 70hrs. The bond was 3 years when I was in Doha 5 weeks ago, but you only pay half of it (25k) during 18 month. (it is a little confusing) you pay 1388usd per month the first 18 months. Then no more salary deduction. And you get all your money back after 36 months. :ugh: I think that is how it works

So no seperate housing allowance and other allowances besides the 410 transport allowance?

What about a income protection scheme? Is there any and how much is deducted?

It doesn´t sound that good overall, too low. You could generate more somewhere else. The Jetlag would be less and the hassle to go home frequently if you cannot break up all your social contacts. You would also have access to all websites you like and more freedom in your moves.

B737NG could you kindly quote a FO job which pays considerably better than this?
I'm not aware of any and I thought I knew the market.

What are the conditions for Qatar executive pilots?

Apparently not:confused:

Maybe EK? At least they have a pension scheme...

EK's package might be better overall, but QR's salary is higher at least if you're rated or once out of the bonding.
Still standing by for any suggestions.

Here's two options for you Safelife, that pay better than QR :

Option 1 : It's possible to make well over $US10,000 per month tax free as F/O with Vietnam Airlines on the 330 or 777, if you go onto the 6+1 or 10+2 roster pattern. No flight pay component, so it's the same every month whether you do 0 hours or 90 hours.

More leave than QR and it's guaranteed, you don't have to bid for it. Free business class ticket home on every leave period.

No accommodation provided but you can rent a very nice apartment (a lot better than AKG or HV!) for about $800. Cost of living is nothing compared to Doha. Eat as much pork and drink as much alcohol as you want.

No management hassle, no "its not allowed captain", no reports made against others, no short-haul night turn arounds. You can actually walk into the rostering office and request a flight or some days off, and they smile and do their best to help you.

Command upgrade after a couple of years (upgrade only on A320 at this time), with no company politics or crazy command questions. A320 captain gets from $US12 to $14,000 depending on the roster pattern they choose.

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Option 2 : go straight from QR RHS to Air Asia LHS if you already have some jet hours, plenty of QR pilots already did that. Once again you will earn well over $10,000 with no hassle and much higher quality of life.

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There is no contest. QR needs to seriously seriously raise their game with regard to money and to lifestyle, or they will continue to be a joke airline where people get the rating and leave.

Massalama habibis :E

Thanks for pointing these out to me, Luke.
I wasn't aware VN pays that well.

Gulf Air pay is about 2500QAR a month higher on the Embraer and about 5000+QAR on the 320 family. Obviously depending on personal circumstances. Plus a better lifestyle on E-Jet but flying wise not on A320 fam. Can't compare social/family wise, GF is in another league.

Hi John21UK, do You have any other info about GulfAir as: pay scale for Captains A320, rosters, flt hrs??and about children education, life in Bahrain, life for family, cost of living there compared to EU, housing?thanks!

May I ask how long it will take for a Fast Track SO to be transferred to the FO rank?. Read somewhere that it will happen upon completion of the line training and line check. Is this correct?

Thank you.

@Luke You're comparing apples to oranges. You have to be typed to get on with Vietnam. Qatar is still one of the best options for non-typed guys. Where else can non-typed guys make those wages?

The guy who was asking for the info, never said anything about typed or non-typed did he :hmm: I presumed he was a QR pilot looking to get out.

But yes, at the risk of stating the obvious, the top dollar asian contracts require experience on type. If you're non type rated then you probably need to read again that last sentence in my previous post :

There's a good little advice in there for you :ok:

Is this a fair representation of A320 FO pay at QR?

Gross income about $10900 per month including housing allowance and flight pay, take off $3-3.5k USD for housing, take off $1390 for bond, that leaves about $6100 USD gross. After 18 months that would go up to $7490 a month after housing, then you'd get your 25k USD bond money at the end of the 3 years. Is my math about right?

How does exchange rate protection work?

Thanks

I think you have over-bloated figures. Here's what I have for 1st year F/O per month...

Exchange Rate: 3.65

Base Pay: 21,500 Qr ($5,890.41)
Flight Pay: 90 Qr ($24.66) * 75hrs/Mo = 6,750 ($1,849.32)
Per Diem (avg): 1,200 Qr ($328.77)
Housing: 10,000 Qr ($2,739.73)
Utilities: 300 Qr ($82.19)
Transport: 1,500 Qr ($410.96)

Subtotal: 41,250 Qr ($11,301.37)
Bond: -5,066.2 Qr ($1,388.00)
Total Pay/Mo: 36,184 Qr ($9,913.37)

Very accurate description av8tordude, thanks.
Does any of those figure increase with seniority ?
How do you receive your per diems (cash, included in your salary, etc.)?

Only base pay increases. Per Diem is paid in local currency base on overnight layover location.

How much does base pay increase?

Can anyone post the education allowance? Thanks

Education allowance
 

tkd90:

According to my contract:

3.2 You will be reimbursed 100% of the actual basic tuition fees up to a maximum of QAR 105,000 per annum for eligible children in accordance with the Company's Policies.

This is verbatim.

FYI it's 35.000 per child so for 3 child it is 105.000 but if the invoice for one child is more than 35.000 per year you will not be reimbursed over 35.000 just keep this in mind.

Example :

Child 1 = 45.000 (max 35.000)

Child 2 = 20.000

Total = 65.000

You will be reimbursed only 55.000

Is the education allowance payable only for schools in Q or can it be used for fees say in UK.

I believe it can be anywhere but only up to the $ Limit set by QR.

Sorry if this was explained before, but what is the max education allowance for just one child? And until what age?
Many thanks.

Education allowance
 

Menikos posted: FYI it's 35.000 per child so for 3 child it is 105.000 but if the invoice for one child is more than 35.000 per year you will not be reimbursed over 35.000 just keep this in mind.

There must be something in the fine print about maximum per child. It sounds as though Menikos has hands on experience with the process!

I understand the allowance to be the following:

1 child - up to 50,000 QR
2 children - up to 75,000 QR
3 children - up to 105,000 QR (max)

I'm sure I have seen it written somewhere, but I may be wrong.