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White Knight 9th Apr 2011 18:16


Just heard bonus announcement has been delayed until may!
Hang on! April Fools was last week:{:{

BYMONEK 9th Apr 2011 20:59

Have you thought of doing an upgrade course then? :}

pipit 10th Apr 2011 05:11

Well twice from fleet!
Wouldn't be surpised they 'll wait for qr and ey and adjust it accordingly.
Just a thought

Kamelchaser 10th Apr 2011 07:59

Jeez I can't resist....sittingly..what a massive overreaction to a bit of humour.:ugh:

Wizofoz 10th Apr 2011 08:41

I have it on good authority that sittingly is a (junior) manager from a rival airline, tasked with torpedoing EK recruitment.

Sheikmyarse, an the other hand, is actually a Bot inserted by the Canadian Government.

Kamelchaser 10th Apr 2011 09:15

There's that humour slipping in again Wiz.

Should be banned, along with democracy and free speech in the Muddle East. Scares the troops.

Sorry Sittingly..forgot you two have some sort of childish vendetta going on. My bad for even thinking people could have a sensible, mature exchange of opinions on this forum.

fourgolds 11th Apr 2011 13:06

Bye Bye Dubai , bullseye mate. Reading the various threads about EK here , it is so abvious that EK ( probably HR have appointed a few browne nose wannabee,s to respond on prune). To attempt to discredit every post that may affect their recruitment policy and/or reputation. Dare I say who I think they are .................:yuk:

oh how the truth hurts :O

Wizofoz 11th Apr 2011 15:10


Does anyone find it beyond the realm of possibility that EK has a little department that is tasked with reputing truths here on PPRuNe? It is in fact a reality.

Beyond possibility? No, but it is no more likely than that you actually work for an EK rival sent to deliberatley talk down EK, or that SMA is a bot.

I don't thinks that so, but aparently sacasim IS lost on you.

I'm often accused of being one of the chief appologists for EK here, and I can assure you I am no more than a humble 5th Year DEC TRI.

PM me and I'll gladly confirm that personally.

So, that being the case, are you prepared to examine the possibility your personal perspective is so far at one end of the spectrum, you can't recognise that people may genuinly have significantly different perspectives to yourself?

Jet II 11th Apr 2011 16:48


Originally Posted by sittingidly (Post 6363499)

Does anyone find it beyond the realm of possibility that EK has a little department that is tasked with reputing truths here on Pprune?

PPRUNE is good for a laugh, but I'm not sure its much more important than that.




Pilots, engineers and good managers simply would not choose this company, if not for the propaganda.
I dont know anyone who wasn't aware of exactly what the status of EK was before they stepped off the boat - if it has come as a bit of a surprise then they haven't been around that much and it is a good learning experience for them.

Most guys at EK take what it offers (and it does offer a lot) whilst it suits them - this means putting up with an awful lot of cr*p in the meantime. But then many (most?) other airlines are no different at all - unfortunately. :(

pipit 11th Apr 2011 17:11

EY salary increase
 
Just for info, EY announced a 2% salary increase!
I guess that's a good indication of ours as well.

Keep on dreaming guys

Wizofoz 11th Apr 2011 18:15

sittingly,


Glad you agreed that there is a small dept at EK, whose sole purpose is to conter truths on PPRuNe.
Err- where did I do that???


OBVIOUSLY EMIRATES AIRLINES watches, infiltrates and manipulates the posts on PPRuNe. You gotta be a dumb ass not to think otherwise.
No, actually you have to be both a dumb ass and borderline paranoid to think they' bother...

Do you often get the feeling unseen people are watching you?

a345xxx 12th Apr 2011 00:23

A long time ago in the mid 90's I had an FAA officer on board a flight. He actually said that the regulatory bodies of a number of countries including the good ole USA monitors PPrune!

I know for a fact there are a number of members who ARE airline management who in fact do post to repudiate statements or embellish the truths that might hurt them.

So be aware........

Jet II 12th Apr 2011 03:49


Originally Posted by sittingidly (Post 6363896)
Jetll, you are a simpleton.

OBVIOUSLY EMIRATES AIRLINES watches, infiltrates and manipulates the posts on Pprune. You gotta be a dumb ass not to think otherwise.

I think you give waaaaay to much credence to what is posted on PPRUNE - its a little corner of the internet that is good for a gossip

And that is about all.




Next time you enter your company ID, then your FOB number, then your 'secret' (each two months has to be changed) code, ask yourself why there is such security to access your email! This company is brilliant with such things, so to think they don't monitor Pprune and infiltrate this forum, would be a foolish assumption.
Have you got a tin foil hat? - many others including Rolls Royce, Virgin Blue, and Lockheed Martin, have exactly the same system.

Wizofoz 12th Apr 2011 03:58


I know for a fact there are a number of members who ARE airline management who in fact do post to repudiate statements or embellish the truths that might hurt them.

I have heard that certain quite senior manager monitor PPRUNE- I can see why, it is a useful tool for getting an idea of what's causing morale problems.

But I' m not aware fo any managers that post (and certainly not some sinister "Boiler room" operation!!).

345, don't be shy. If you have verifiable facts, name which posters are management and what positions they hold.

BYMONEK 12th Apr 2011 17:13

Kamelchaser

I'm offended that you'd even contemplate the thought of me having a private argument with sittingidly. Not only does he struggle to spell my name each time, he probably even confuses himself with his contridictory posts. This guy is one big wind up. Treat as such.

Anyway, May 10th will be the day of truth. My guess is either a large pay rise (10% +) or a whopping profit share (18 weeks). Unless we get at least one of those and sufficient new pilots to fly our shiny new jets later this year, there's going to be a lot more pissed off postings on these threads.

If the Company wants to almost double in size and retain highly qualified pilots, that will make for an interesting 18 months ahead.

Uplink 12th Apr 2011 18:01

I havent posted on here for a long time but as I finally had a couple of days off and wasnt asleep for a change, I thought I would take a peek at the gossip.

Every year we speculate as to what we will get. Is anyone ever correct in their guesses? All I can say is, I hope we dont get much.....

Contentious statement I know but there is a reason for this.

This is not the company I joined, or should I say my contract I signed all those years ago doesnt represent the supposed contract I have now. But then Dubai isnt the place I remember from all those years ago either. Have a look at this link from an article in Vanity Fair. I had this sent to me and have to say it hits the nail on the head.

Dubai on Empty | Culture | Vanity Fair

The main thing to learn from this is that Dubai is broke. The only things making money I hear are the Ports and the Airline. Abu Dhabi want their money and this is what they will tap to get it. So all our efforts and hard work over the past 2 years are for nothing. The profits will be used to pay the debts. I am not even going to hazard a guess as to what the company will give as a bonus. All I do know is this. I have a feeling we will be hugely disappointed. I think we will be angry...... Angry because they will give us a paltry amount. It will be better than zero but nothing that represents what the company has made. The pay rise will be of a similar amount....paltry...

But thats going to start the mass exodus. For instance, has anyone looked at the seniority list recently. I look quite often at it. We have recruited over 1000 pilots in the past 3 years and yet the seniority list has only increased by about 350 in that time. Its like a bucket full of holes. 3 pilots quit today. Yeah they still get the bonus, but i think this is the first of many. I think there is a huge intake of breath as we all await the ''good news for pay and bonus'' once its announced the cabin crew will leave in droves. Pilots also. There is an arrogance in this company that everyone wants to join. Its not happening now. They have no more people from May. When they announce the paltry pay rise and bonus no one will want to join....and why would they???

Emirates you have taken my overtime payments away... you have cost me an absolute fortune. The guy that suggested it is now in a position that reports to AAR directly. He is untouchable. I hope you can sleep at night.. The majority of us are wiped out from the work patterns we are getting...This country is so expensive now that i laugh at the payrise i got last year. It wasnt enough by 20%... The company cut and cut and cut and still cut. I get less money for my layovers now than I did 10 years ago...and what happened to the pay scales... I havent had an increment rise for 3 years.

So EK, go ahead and give us your best shot. If you then dont get any people wanting to join this prestigious company, that could with a little effort could be the best job in the world, dont complain.

BUT then again, I may be wrong....

Wizofoz 13th Apr 2011 04:59


Does any intelligent person working at EK/EY not realize that at the very least these company's monitor PPRuNe? In fact, they infiltrate PPRuNe but to what extent is debatable.

sittingly,

You didn't say anything was debatable. You said it was a fact.

A fact is not a suspicion. It is something you know because of empirical, verifiable evidence.

Now it seems you admit what you claimed as fact is mearly conjecture, conjured up by your over-emotional attitude in your posts here.


SO, they take jabs at people, make absurd assertions and then go home at the end of the day.

Therefore, there sholud be no posts by these people sent outside office hours. Care to test that? Post a name and we'll check.

Are you really saying the "Jabs" directed at negative posters are worse than those directed at positive posters, in the same post as you question anothers intelligence for the third of fourth time?


Keep in mind, these people have to be subtle and they change their ID once people start questioning their motives.

Join Date: Jun 2001
Try some detached,critical thinking not just about EK, but about things like your naive ideas about investment, and you are more likely to come to rational conclusions.

fatbus 13th Apr 2011 10:15

First off it a profit share ,only VP's get a bonus, and as long as you are on the payrole in May you get the profit share, unless that has changed since last year

drop kick 14th Apr 2011 05:04

Well it looks like we will all know, not so soon :ugh:
10th may is the announcment:hmm:

Chewthecrude 14th Apr 2011 05:22

10th May!
 
The wording of the corp comms invite is a bit dire it seems....

Traditionally it's been on the last thurs of April. It seems odd after all these years for it to be near mid may.

I'm forever with a half full cup but it feels like it may be a half empty cup this year:(

We'll see 10th at 1pm won't we?


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