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whocares47 29th Aug 2010 16:32

Kuwait Airways Hiring
 
KAC is looking to hire 16 expat F/O for the A320. They already recruited 16, this is being done to prepare for privatization. The privatization "process" starts in March '11.

whocares47 29th Aug 2010 17:09

Correction, March '11

optimus.Prime 29th Aug 2010 17:14

@whocares47,

Any info. on the minimum requirements and hiring procedure(s) would be greatly appreciated!

whocares47 29th Aug 2010 17:21

1500 hours on jets ATPL TR not required. No...

1500 hours on jets

ATPL

TR not required.

No bond.

Basic salary KD2200 (which goes up by KD80 for each 500 hours experience you have) you can expect KD3000 a month

Flying allowance KD6 (for flts between 0500-2000) and KD9 outside these hours Avarage flying is 30-45 hours a month

Layover allowance is KD52 per 24 hours out of base (calculated from chocks-to-chocks

Housing allowance included.

65 paid leave days a year including 16 "block days" per annum

Paid tickets during leave

moredrag 29th Aug 2010 17:33

Boring place, Good job, good money, lots of leave and just a few hours a month, one catch though, no command for expats.....have that in mind guys, they need you to upgrade locals only!!!;)

whocares47 29th Aug 2010 18:03

Re upgrade: not for long...privatization is in 7 months, after that upgrade is by seniority regardless of nationality, just like WAN and JZR.

System Logic 29th Aug 2010 18:42

Is this official ?? Nothing on the website. Appologies if I have missed it.

whocares47 29th Aug 2010 18:55

Hmmm.... It was there for the first batch of 16 I remember. It's not there anymore I guess.

But it is official.

moredrag 29th Aug 2010 21:16

...privatization is in 7 months, after that upgrade is by seniority regardless of nationality...


in an ideal world that is how it should be..

BUT....let's look at the current situation,

Conditions will change, no private enterprise will accept the ballast accumulated after years of hemorrhaging money, they can't even pay the salaries, have a look at the press last week. Saving will be in the agenda.

The most probable private company to come into play will be WAN, if they merge, some airplanes will be shed....look at WAN's passenger loads, 50% at best! their only reason for being there is to wed KAC when privatization comes...

Kuwait Airport has no more capacity so forget about adding more aircraft to the fleet until the much needed expansion of the airport has started.

Between WAN and KAC they have enough crews, if they need a few more, DEC and fresh FO's will be hired. Remember, they will already have new local Captains, this last effort in recruitment is to promote all the locals ready, before the new era of KAC, a leaner and more dynamic operator.

Ask any experienced FO's in JZR and WAN, how long have they been waiting for that command, how slow the training machine in Kuwait is and how much cheaper is to get a few DEC at short notice.

It is a good debate and something is about to happen in Kuwait, it could be 7 months as you said , or 2 o 3 years as it usually is. if you have time to spare, do join, but be warned, many have been disappointed in this land, too many things are needed for the new KAC, a Dynamic dgca, a bigger airport, new ATC, a faster training program, etc.

;)

Deske1 29th Aug 2010 21:19

Boring place
 
Yeah,it will not be so boring when more "I want this,I want that" type of "cheap charlies" will come with false logbooks from the european low-cost area.

whocares47 29th Aug 2010 21:24

Regardless, KAC is still looking to hire 16 expats.

If you are looking for an upgrade, don't expect any for at least 5 years.

cyrilroy21 30th Aug 2010 14:49

How do you apply ?

It dosent say anything on its website :confused:

whocares47 30th Aug 2010 16:09

PM me for further details

moredrag 3rd Sep 2010 16:31

90 Kuwait Airways Corporation pilots seek ‘transfer’ (Arab Times)


KUWAIT CITY, Sept 2: Ninety Kuwait Airways Corporation (KAC) pilots have allegedly requested their transfer to Municipality institutions as they have no intention to continue working at the corporation after the privatization process, reports Al-Shahid daily quoting sources.
Sources revealed the financial situation at the corporation is getting worse, attributing the problem to the financial and administrative violations purportedly committed by high-ranking officials. Sources called for the quick completion of the privatization process to save the corporation from further decline.

cyrilroy21 3rd Sep 2010 17:20

Looks like they will be needing more than just '16'pilots :hmm: :ok: :E

behramjee 4th Sep 2010 08:34

my mum worked 23 years in KAC 1971-1994. And I have flown them every year from 1994 to 2007 to JFK/ORD from KWI.

Its glory years I feel were 1993-1998 when its A 340s, AB6s, A 310s and B 777s were pretty new. In 94 though we flew their B 747-200 to JFK...lovely flight.

Its really sad what has become of this airline over the past decade.

Kuwait Govt every year for the past 5 years has made a budget surplus of US$ 25-30 billion. If only few years ago, they could have given KU US$ 2.5 billion for a total fleet and brand image make over, we would have seen a whole new airline altogether.

I dont know whether its new "private share holders" will have the much needed cash to replace its entire aging fleet of wide bodied aircraft :confused:

whocares47 14th Sep 2010 19:35

To all you guys who sent me your CVs some of you have been contacted by KAC by now. All slots are now taken.

thefoxphyre 5th Oct 2010 13:53

KAC is officially being sold, they will transition the entire company to the new management by March end and this time its happening for real. Plus currently they are under going the Audit process in determining the real value of the company so it can be sold for the right price....Plus yeah they did recruit 16 more f/o and after the sale of the company there will probably be no hiring since majority of the pilots have decided to stick around plus they have to balance the books hence there will be more layoffs than hiring....just my 2 cents

crazyduck 5th Oct 2010 19:02


KAC is officially being sold, they will transition the entire company to the new management by March end and this time its happening for real. Plus currently they are under going the Audit process in determining the real value of the company so it can be sold for the right price....Plus yeah they did recruit 16 more f/o and after the sale of the company there will probably be no hiring since majority of the pilots have decided to stick around plus they have to balance the books hence there will be more layoffs than hiring....just my 2 cents
yeah yeah yeah:hmm:.I am hearing it since 3 years.Oh well if you tell us that is happening for real then everyone on this forum will really believe it:E.

jimmyg 6th Oct 2010 03:31

There is already rumblings that the March date will be moved forward.

It has still yet to be determined who will stay or go. This is more of a negotiation tactics by the pilots.


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