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BMAN1 21st May 2010 15:36

Arabian Jets
 
Anyone work for them or have any information regarding company stability, pilot T&Cs, interview expectations, etc.?

Thanks

Mladen Ostir 1st Jun 2010 04:32

Arabian jets
 
I have a friend recently hired by them.

A new outfit in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Big plans with AOC application underway and currently managing GIV's, Hawkers and a BBJ in the pipeline.
Complete dispatch centre facilities being built and so far my buddy is very happy with the people he has dealt with there. Salaries are not the highest in the region but are still very competitive. Seems a few experienced people already been hired to run the show.

Good luck to them - Saudi is thirsty territory for some quality operators.

:ok:

LGW Vulture 1st Jun 2010 09:49

Can't tell you about T&Cs but I hear they are in it for the long haul and might potentially be snapping up many of the unhappy folks at NJME. Time will tell.

BMAN1 1st Jun 2010 11:32

Mladen Ostir,

What does your friend fly?

Their posting on climbto350, regarding a Capt. Hawker 900XP position states, "You can make NET $ 85,000 per year plus operational per diem and other benefits".

Any idea if that's $85,000 annually plus benefits?
Also, would you know what the pay for a Hawker 400XP Capt. is.


Thanks,
BMAN

Mladen Ostir 1st Jun 2010 13:53

Bman

He has been hired as a Hawker 900 Captain. I don't know the answer to your question, however benefits on an 85K package (tax free) I'd imagine would not amount to more than 5-10K extra per year (Any more would be exceptional in the ME).
Per diems would also have to be added depending on the amount you fly I would imagine. I'm not sure if he's on 3/1 or 2/1 or fulltime, I must ask and get back.
I believe their hiring focus is on folks with Middle East experience at least to start with. He has been over here for five years flying Hawkers. If you've ever lived and flown over here you'd understand why.... probably essential in a start up, to build core experience. The playing field can be very different to 'back home'.

Sounds like a well backed organisation with plenty of $$ to get things going.

Time will tell as always!

:}

NZ X man 2nd Jun 2010 02:11

Arabian Jets
 
Here they are running a 3 on, 1 off schedule.

SU-GCM 3rd Jun 2010 15:02

do they have any vacancies at Flight ops ?
Flight dispatchers etc... ?
any contacts for their HR ?

Arabian Jets 5th Jun 2010 10:43

Arabian Jets
 
Gents

Standby on this.

More to come as the framework comes together. Our position is a little undeveloped to start making promises, at risk of not being in a position to keep them.

Suffice to say, AJ will be offering plenty of opportunities to the right people with the right attitudes and background: Pilots, FA's, MXT, OCC personel and Support functions.

Standby for now - watch this space.

Arabian Jets - Jeddah

mawk 4th Aug 2010 19:06

Contact info
 
Hey there..

I am trying to send my resume to AJ, but the website is giving me a lot of trouble.. anyone has a direct email or can send me in the right direction in making contact with Arabian Jets..

thank you in advance

m

mutt 5th Aug 2010 07:19

Apart from your desire to get a sun tan, there are other issues that you SHOULD consider before accepting ANY job in Saudi........

1: Accommodation - hotel or compound?
2: Transport
3: Family status
4: Schooling
5: Medical
6: Igama or not?
7: Where will your salary be paid.
8: When will it be paid, Arabic month?
9: Is there a curfew?
10: What countries law governs your employment contract.

Open your eyes and ask questions before you jump into something like this. You wouldn't be the first person to get a "non-paying" job in Saudi, nor i doubt that you would be the last.

Obviously as Arabian Jets are not presently operating, I cannot pass comment on their ethics. BUT if you look in this thread you will find someone asking questions about how to get paid by a Saudi employer.

Oh yea, if your friend happens to be a boyfriend..... remember that its illegal for you to be with him in public OR YOUR HOTEL ROOM, this is a crime punishable by lashes and deportation...........

Good Luck.

Mutt

mohoney 6th Aug 2010 11:46

Sent to many NJME crew
 
This has been sent via an unsolicited E-mail to quite a few NJME pilots and Flight attendants company E-mails.


Dear Sir

You have been personally identified by the Arabian Jets Human Capital Pilot
development team in Jeddah as a high caliber individual who may be seeking
to further develop your professional interests within the MENA region. By
considering becoming part of a young, growing and dynamic team of dedicated
professionals you could be taking the first step to making a fresh start for
your personal and professional aspirations.

You have been approached because you have been highly recommended by your
Industry peers. We are focused on populating our Flight Operations with the
highest caliber people we can possibly find in order to build a strong
foundation from which we can achieve our ambitious plans for the future.

Should the prospect of an exciting new change and a fresh start combined
with the ability to make a difference interest you, please find attached a
PAF (Pilot Application Form). If you complete this and email it to the
address listed on the first and the last page of the form:
[email protected] and include the required documents listed on the cover
page checklist we will handle your expression of interest with genuine
priority.

Arabian Jets, is offering a 2 month ON, 1 month OFF schedule with
competitive salary and benefits and will undertake to train a pilot on type
should the ideal candidate present themselves. Current aircraft under our
custodianship include various numbers of the following types: Hawker 400,
Hawker 900XP, Hawker 800XP, GIV, Legacy 600, Challenger 850, Challenger 300,
BBJ. Aggressive and proactive sourcing of more individuals seeking to place
their aircraft with a dynamic and transparent operator is taking place and
Arabian Jets expects further extensive additions to these aircraft within
the coming 12 months. We are also focused on filling key Operational
Management posts for the right individuals with full time residency status
in Jeddah.

It is an unusual and unorthodox method we have employed to establish contact
with you, however, this is just one of many examples of our fresh and
dynamic approach we have adopted to ensure we have given pilots with only
the best reputations, the first opportunity to become part of Arabian Jets.
Take it as a sincere professional compliment that you have been approached
and we do look forward to hearing from you should you choose to explore
opportunities with the Arabian Jets Family.

Kind Regards

Arabian Jets Human Capital

ashlea 6th Aug 2010 13:38

The poach-by-email approach.
Nothing actually wrong with doing it this way. If they can offer better T&Cs - why not?

PNCAA 9th Oct 2010 09:30

Hello,

Just want to know the Arabian jets destinations? accomodation: hotel or compounds?

Thx all

4runner 10th Oct 2010 16:44

Their destinations? Daily non-stop service to Lome, Togo and nightly red eyes to Las Vegas for gambling binges when not utilized for Hajj flights. They've outfitted all the Hawkers and Gulfstreams with high density seating and underwing fuel pods to expand range and were able to achieve an STC for a gross weight increase to allow for the previous modifications. The second FMS was pulled and leased to Flight Safety for their sims and all F/O's are being trained on celestial navigation using Indian DGCA handbooks that are being distributed as we speak. Dude, it's a charter outfit using business jets. They go where they are paid to go, when they are told to do so. No scheduled destination. P.S.-your instructor called, he said your cross country was canceled because of mx but you can do some pattern work if the weather is okay. Sorry guys, couldn't resist:-):ugh:

NZ X man 11th Oct 2010 00:50

arabian jets
 
4runner
Oh, Ouch, blood everywhere, but entertaining to say the least. I guess getting the straight scoop on the previous questions from someone who is with ARABIAN jets would help a bit. There are so many crap operators who promise to be professional, then are run by bottom feeders. I see they changed there schedule to a 2 0n, 1 0ff, probably would not get quality pilots , even with the economics other wise.

ex-nutjeter 20th Oct 2010 15:01

Arabian Jets
 
So have things slowed down there or what? I hear that they are not getting aircraft as fast as they were planning, and are not hiring. How many aircraft do they currently have?

NZ X man 20th Oct 2010 19:05

arabian jets
 
They had an ad three days ago,(started), for CL-300 pilots, 2 on,, 1 off on the orange site. SO they are still alive and facing Mecca.

Cheers

batsky2000 20th Oct 2010 21:52

That is true, but that ad as well as any others were gone after being up just 1 day. I think that they are just building a database of applicants for future hiring. I asked a friend who is based there, and he said that they only have 1 G-IV, a hawker 400xp, 900xp. They did not get any BBJ's as planned. Hiring should start back up in 2011. Maybe?

NZ X man 21st Oct 2010 00:18

arabian jets
 
Well maybe things are changing in the ME, Netjets was advertising for Gulfstream guys, and the special flight opps is looking again in Jeddah
..

hawkerjet 21st Oct 2010 01:03

does anyone have any info on special flight ops? I would be interested in q:)ol, schedules, living conditions, or any other pearls of wisdom you may share..


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