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Gulfstreamaviator 16th Nov 2009 09:45

Gulf Jets
 
They seem to have a positive view, as far as the corporate world is concerned.
Not able to get to the show, so using the National Newspaper as my intelegence source.

glf

fractional 16th Nov 2009 10:59

Ethiopian orders 12 A350s
Yemenia announces $700m Airbus order
Etihad announces Dh2.7bn investment
flydubai announces deals worth Dh660m
etc..
The orders of aircraft, engines and other aviation material have started. Ethiopian is news. First Airbus orders.

OMDB-PiLoT 16th Nov 2009 15:45

I was there today. Had to show my passport, pay Dhs. 200 (multi-entry pass) and go through scanners. Good experience.

recceguy 16th Nov 2009 16:52

From an air traffic point of view, it's ludicrous staging the airshow at the busiest unit in these parts. As though we don't already have enough problems that need taking care of. Let's just add another camel back-breaker!
We have so many other airports that could host the show but I guess it's a case of "it's not OUR airfield"
A few of you airline types ought to complain and explain how complex airline scheduling is at a hub and what chaos can result when you close a major airport for any length of time


We just ask the Air Traffic to shut up and obey.
If the Airshow is in DXB, it's for plenty of good reasons, which it's a pity if you don't understand them. So stay at your level of expertise... and don't try to get any other picture, just vector us on the ILS and give us a landing clearance, and that should be enough.
But ATC usually think they are the center of the Aerospace World, don't they ?

jetjockey737 16th Nov 2009 17:05

recceguy

That was a bit strong wasn't it?

puff m'call 16th Nov 2009 17:13

I watched the airshow from the balcony of Costa at EGHQ on day one. In my view it was a bit of a weak affair, a few fast jets making alot of noise, (well we all like that) and SLUF doing a good display for a big jet but so what? :D
B747 can do the same.

I've been to many International airshows and this one doesn't even come close.:rolleyes:

Only goes to show you don't need an airshow at a large busy airport screwing up an airlines schedule to place an order for some aircraft!!:ugh:

Hold the dam thing at Al Ain next time. :ok:

Schibulsky 17th Nov 2009 00:00

@recceguy
Would you enlighten us with your level of expertise about the plenty good reasons why this is a good idea?
Looks like the rest of the world has another opinion and stage their airshows at minor airports.
Otherwise I would ask YOU to shut up and keep obeying the commands from ATC even if it obviously hurts your feelings you arrogant :mad:

Tower Ranger 17th Nov 2009 02:40

Recceguy, your complete lack of understanding of the DXB operation is really quite sweet, maybe you should have really impressed us and written it in French too.

singleseater 17th Nov 2009 03:19

Must not forget, although this is called an Airshow, it is in-fact a trade show. The displays are nice, but unlike a proper Airshow, they are not the reason for being there. It is all about the almighty $$.

NZ X man 17th Nov 2009 07:33

Dubai airshow
 
Mirdiff Cat strangler, you say you have located the Mirdiff Cat strangler?

ATCO1962 17th Nov 2009 09:57

recceguy,

I may be wrong, but I can't think of any other major airfield that routinely closes for an airshow each year so there must be some good reasons for NOT having an airshow at such fields. Perhaps you would be so kind as to suggest why having schedules thrown into chaos is a good thing for struggling airlines and their passengers.

Again, I'm one of the poor suckers in these parts who has to sort out the sometimes complicated results of these airshows being staged and it ain't always easy.

I love airshows and have taken my family members along to the ones that I could so my comments are not from an anti point of view. They are simply from someone who has worked here for around 20 years (my expertise, if you like) and one who knows from an inside track how silly it is to use Dubai for a good airshow when there are a number of other good alternatives in the UAE that wouldn't bring the disruption that results in holding the show in Dubai.

As for your comment about ATC being the centre of the aviation world; I think that that speaks volumes about yourself and not about air traffic controllers these days, who have our own type of CRM. We encourage our people to be team players, not only amongst ourselves but with every person involved in the business that we're in. We've come a long way, baby!

5star 17th Nov 2009 10:58

small correction. It's every 2 years buddy....

cuberoute 17th Nov 2009 11:07

What time are the air displays please ?

ATCO1962 17th Nov 2009 12:15

Because I care and have to deal with the fallout. It's not just Emirates flights that are affected.

S.F.L.Y 17th Nov 2009 12:59


I may be wrong, but I can't think of any other major airfield that routinely closes for an airshow
Le Bourget is the busiest business aviation airfield in Europe and as such it could be an example. Also keep in mind that the display volume is very very close to Charles De Gaulle and definitely affects its traffic as well.

cuberoute 17th Nov 2009 13:45

What time are the air displays please ?

Heritage 1 17th Nov 2009 15:59

From 2pm every day.

h3dxb 18th Nov 2009 03:27


Mirdiff Cat strangler, you say you have located the Mirdiff Cat strangler?
Damn, when the cat strangler is in Mirdiff, I think I saw her yersterday. Was a local female, sitting in front of Spinneys and trying to strangle a white persian cat with a lash. Poor Furball.....

Anyhow, was on the airshow, OK I'm not a pilot, I have a profession and got a ticket from a client. Had to grap a free bag, to have enough space for all these free presents. Still struggling today, which pin I will wear...

Lot of military stuff to buy. Was interested in the Typhoon, but didn't get a good discount. Every time this F22 was to loud, even when Jetnoise makes me horny, this skipped the deal.

Anyhow ,went off with 2 Aerlington machine guns for my H3, now I have free way on the Sheik Zayed Road.

Impressive was the A380, OK You cannot go in (invitation only) but what the f&ck , we have already five. Had a look on the displayplane from EY (EK has nothing there, all flying, thats why we have to buy another 100 or so). Anyhow there was a displaycaptain who was also head of recruitment for flightcrew, dropped all the business cards from my pilot friends, this will be fun when they figure out....that they can earn more money there :ok:

Maybe I'll go once more tomorrow, still interested in this Typhoons :)

Have fun

keep_smiling 18th Nov 2009 04:57

Oman Air signs for up to 10 Embraer 175s
 
By Max Kingsley-Jones
Oman Air has placed an order for five Embraer 175s for delivery from the first quarter of 2011. The deal is worth $177.5 million.
Four of the aircraft will be operated by Oman Air in a two-class 72-seat layout. The fifth will be operated by the Omani police force. The deal includes purchase rights for five more aircraft.
Dubai 09: Oman Air signs for up to 10 Embraer 175s-17/11/2009-Dubai-Flight Daily News

recceguy 18th Nov 2009 06:12

@recceguy
Would you enlighten us with your level of expertise about the plenty good reasons why this is a good idea?

Recceguy doesn't usually apologizes.
Sorry for all of you guys who suffer from an extra workload and some disruption of your shifts, but we are a lot here - at least in the neighbouring countries - who consider the benefits of this particular airshow significally outweigh the minor disruption of your daily routines.
Your Rulers have decided that the DXB Airshow was going to happen years ago already, and being involved in the Middle-East industry, I don't see any change coming in the foreseeable future.
So now, do you want a title in Flight Daily News like " Dubai ATC complains about extra workload during the Air show " ... ? .... please keep whining and for sure it will happen.
The question had the answer in it.


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