Wonder what it was? control surface maybe; causing loss of control? |
Status: Preliminary
Date: 21 OCT 2009 Time: 15:30 Type: Boeing 707-300 Operating for: Sudan Airways Leased from: AZZA Transport Registration: C/n / msn: First flight: Crew: Fatalities: 6 / Occupants: 6 Passengers: Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 0 Total: Fatalities: 6 / Occupants: 6 Airplane damage: Destroyed Airplane fate: Written off (damaged beyond repair) Location: ca 1 km N of Sharjah Airport (SHJ) (United Arab Emirates) Phase: Takeoff (TOF) Nature: Cargo Departure airport: Sharjah Airport (SHJ/OMSJ), United Arab Emirates Destination airport: Khartoum-Civil Airport (KRT/HSSS), Sudan Flightnumber: 2241 Narrative: A Boeing 707 cargo plane, owned by Azza Transport, was destroyed when it crashed in a desert area immediately after takeoff from Sharjah Airport (SHJ). The airplane operated on Sudan Airways flight SUD2241, crashed near the Emirates Road, broke up and burned. Weather reported around the time of the accident (ca 11:30 UTC): OMSJ 211100Z 33012KT 270V010 9999 FEW040 32/19 Q1012= OMSJ 211200Z 32011KT 9999 FEW040 32/18 Q1012= |
Looked to me like an engine came off,from the video footage.
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Here's the video footage -
EGGW |
It's clear that this recording was taken from the OMSJ security center. I am sure the GCAA would not have a problem finding what it was that fell. However if anyone knows, some of the stuff that was reported to have been recovered for the runway....would really like to hear.
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Ord 1980
Initial rate of climb looks healthy. The American DC10 in Chicago comes to mind.
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I don't believe it was an engine.....not even a puff of dust when it hit the ground. Certainly would be interesting to know what was found on the runway.
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Although Guy it could have fallen behind one of the many sand dunes that grace the desert behind the airport - there may have been a huge puff of dust but out of line of sight...
I'm sure they would have found said object by now anyway. |
Cargo shift
On August 7, 1997, Fine Air flight 101, a Cargo DC-8-61F registration # N27UA, en route from Miami to Santo Domingo, in the Dominican Republic, suffered sudden movement of cargo materials in the aft cargo hold while on take off. The aircraft's nose rose steeply due to the sudden uneven weight distribution caused by shifting boxes of denim material that had not been securely fastened.
The pilots, departing out of the former Runway 27R (now 26L) attempted to recover but the aircraft stalled and crashed onto a field adjacent the Miami City Rail Yard less than a mile from the airport. |
After further investigation, it was determined the cargo didn't shift on the Arrow Air, but that the pallets were loaded in reverse order, causing the plane to become uncontrollable with the calculated stab setting...
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S.F.L.Y.
While I understand what you are saying...This video we are seeing was recorded in Time Lapse Mode...(e.g....one frame every 2 seconds) so when it is played back in realtime..it seems faster than it really is. It also causes us to miss certain frames which could have key info..like when the object hit the ground...
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Thanks
IB57, do you know what the final outcome of the Emery crash in California was. I think it was in 2000. Thanks JRJ
"Sacramento -- Federal investigators said yesterday that they are focusing on the possibility that a DC-8 cargo jet that crashed near here Wednesday, killing all three crew members, had severe problems caused by shifting cargo that threw the four-engine plane out of balance." |
The Emery that crashed into the junkyard was caused by disconnection of the servo tab actuator rod due to a bolt being installed the wrong way around, when the nut worked loose and fell free, they were for the most part left with little control of the elevator system, (DC-8 drivers clarify this please)
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B707
Looks like an Engine fell off. number 3 or 4. And she stalled.
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From The National
The investigation into the fatal crash last month of a Boeing 707 cargo plane has suffered a serious setback after authorities were unable to retrieve information from the aircraft’s flight data recorders. The two devices, which monitor cockpit conversations and aircraft vital signs, failed to record the jetliner’s final moments before crashing shortly after take-off at Sharjah International Airport, Saif al Suwaidi, the head of the General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA), said. Black boxes fail to shed any light on plane crash - The National Newspaper This being true (???), makes me wonder how many more are flying in/out of the UAE and other parts of the Gulf and elsewhere in similar circumstances, let alone the unairworthiness of the aircraft? ICAO has to stop "recommending" and CivAirs have to become accountable and sanctioned if not following the regs. Too many people are dying because of reckless managements and crews (ground and air). |
Too many people are dying because of reckless managements and crews (ground and air). Just a few here...out of how many ops from the UAE in the last (for example) year? Get a grip, fractional...it ain't that bad.:rolleyes: |
One must ask....how many is too many? |
I hope you are not trying to say this accident was just the a mere and unavoidable accident... |
@411A
When you watch some aviation fossils climbing out of DXB in summer and barely making it over the airport fence, do you think:
A: thats o.k. probably reduced thrust t/o. B: I have to get new glasses. C: some people on PPRuNe will probaby bitch again over this absolute safe operation! D: no problem, they had some prayers before, inshallah!! E: all of the above. :confused: |
Don't know about your eyesight, Schibulsky, however you might be just slightly rushing to judgement with the concerned 707.
From the info on R&N, the airplane appeared to be not at max weight (unless they were tankering fuel from SHJ, unlikely), the payload was less than normal, the initial climb did not appear to be grazing the airport fence...so, we still don't really know what happened...now do we?:rolleyes: |
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