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allaru 16th Oct 2009 06:52

mall cop fines
 
A friend of ours was recently fined 200dhs for "inappropriate dress" in Emirates mall.

Plain cloths cops are cruising the malls looking for people guilty of dress crimes.

Seems like the whole place is turning ferrel as the money dries up ala Sharjah.

Second Officer Eds recent rant about the same theme has no doubt come down from above.

I'm off to the tailors to raise my trouser cuffs by a couple of inches...3" or so usually give the required look.

OMDB-PiLoT 16th Oct 2009 07:06

Theres been a huge amount of press on this issue, but some of you guys just don't get it! Malls are not beaches or swimming pools. Cover up! There are signs all over the place, at the entrance etc. Respect the culture and follow the law and you wont have to pay any fines. Simple. :rolleyes:

Rightwingheavy 16th Oct 2009 07:50

i am just wondering, why is it they still allow stores around to sell clothes that they do not want the public to wear?

FlyingCroc 16th Oct 2009 09:14

Respect the law
 
We are guest and we have to respect the local laws. How many of you guys complain when muslims do not want to adjust in the West, same applies here. Dubai is a strict muslim country that pretend to be westernized, but the law of the land is the scharia.

Instant Hooligan 16th Oct 2009 09:25

Allaru,
What exactly was inappropriate about the choice of clothing?

FlyingCroc 16th Oct 2009 09:54

Hypocritical?
 
How long are you in the sandpit A380 driver? :}

Schibulsky 16th Oct 2009 10:49

You can't have it both ways!
 
When they advertise Dubai to the slaves-to-be it's an open westernized country and they have no problems to have one of the largest amount of hookers in the world (haven't seen any sign about dress code at most of the bars:}) But once the guys who bail them out ask them to play by the sharia its all of a sudden back to the year shown in the upper corner of Gulfnews:ugh:
Maybe that's what some people see as hypocritical...
Hope they'll go after dishdashes drinking booze in public as well :E
P.S. @flyingCroc: I never felt like a "guest" here anyway!

Bypass ratio 16th Oct 2009 10:54

I think we tend to forget that we live in the most hypocritical society in the world.........the middle east!!:ugh:

Nightfire 16th Oct 2009 14:20

If you want to rant and complain, then do it about something worth discussing about, for f's sake!

Everybody knows the dress-codes for the malls, and to tell you the truth, I like it.
It is not asking too much of anyone to wear at least jeans and a normal t-shirt.

QatarA340 16th Oct 2009 14:59

Well, there are signs before entering Emirates Mall which specifically state to wear appropriate attire with a small picture, too. So, respect the laws next time :)

PorkKnuckle 16th Oct 2009 15:32


Originally Posted by OmDbPiloT
Respect the culture and follow the law and you wont have to pay any fines. Simple

In order to assist, can you please point out what is the culture? Without referring to malls, quadbikes or 4wds.


Originally Posted by QatarA340
So, respect the laws next time

"Respect"? I think we have different ideas of what the word means.

Most expats ABIDE BY the laws. Very few RESPECT them. It is very difficult to respect such two-faced hypocrisy.

Respect implies looking up to something or admiring it and holding it in high esteem.

Can you see the difference?

On the subject of semantics, can someone PLEASE point out what the word "guest" actually means? Maybe "contractors" would be more appropriate.

ironbutt57 16th Oct 2009 15:46

Qatar A340.....why dont they clean up the whore houses and the other sleaze before picking on petty items....ohh I forgot the whores bring in money to who????

fractional 16th Oct 2009 17:40

As long as laws continue to be as they are, no one should be in doubt that these places are for making as much money as you can and move out.
Yes, we are considered as guests, but, as I said many times before in this network, I would never treat guests the way they treat most of the expat population, let alone the thousands at the bottom of the ladder.
We should come here on the sponsors’ expense, do our jobs professionally to justify the money they pay and get out as soon as possible. If you do not get a good package, then you will be in for hard times and joining the bottom of the ladder rather than aiming for the top.
Despite buying property here or even becoming a national, you will be always a guest because you are not born and bred as a genuine national.
As Schibulsky and ironbutt57 said, they cannot have both ways. I don't know what the case was in the Emirates Mall, but it is ridiculous to claim being a credible and open society and then see what you can see in the hotels, night-clubs and other spots in town on and off-shore where there is Sharia.

TwinAisle 16th Oct 2009 20:32


i am just wondering, why is it they still allow stores around to sell clothes that they do not want the public to wear?
They sell condoms in Boots....

More than welcome to wear scanty stuff on the beach. Not welcome in the malls. Signs everywhere.

TA

OMDB-PiLoT 16th Oct 2009 21:08


Originally Posted by PorkKnuckle
In order to assist, can you please point out what is the culture? Without referring to malls, quadbikes or 4wds.

Please don't talk rubbish and make a fool out of yourself. Don't try too hard pretending to be one of those "know-it-all" people.

First of all, UAE's (or any country for that matter) culture is not defined by quadbikes or 4wds! Just because you see whores at clubs doesn't mean this place is filled with filth. What you see is a very small part of this country. The religion Islam does play a big role. The western side is only projected to lure one of your kinds to work here. I think they are pretty smart in making you feel home (with the whores).

Try to learn about this country, there are many books and information on the net. You're not a kid, so please don't act like one. There are signs posted everywhere, especially at the mall entrance about the dress code. So follow the law, and if you want to enjoy your stay and feel more welcomed, then show some respect. Otherwise, there are many who can replace you. Goodbye.

AMF 16th Oct 2009 22:10

You mean you can wear bona fide bathing suits over there at a public beach? Whoa, what's next for you Dubai libertines.....dancing?

Instant Hooligan 16th Oct 2009 22:19

omdb pilot,
Can you answer Porkknuckle's question regarding culture?

Wiley 16th Oct 2009 23:26

I'll have to be a contrarian here.

In places like supermarkets and malls, I've seen any number of Western women - (some of whom I've known, so they weren't all 'unknowing' tourists) - who even the most laid back individual with even the faintest sliver of comprehension that he or she was living in a Muslim country would have to say were dressed inappropriately - in some cases, extremely inappropriately.

One of the worst repeat offenders was the wife of an EK captain, who, if she had as much brain as skin she displayed, would have been a Nobel Prize candidate. (No joke intended about intentions versus achievments a la Mr Obama.)

EGGW 17th Oct 2009 04:58

Keep it cool guys. Any more handbag style posts get binned.

EGGW

S.F.L.Y 17th Oct 2009 07:48

While we are in an Islamic country, many things are still tolerated if you do it the right way. As it was pointed out, hookers and alcohol can be enjoyed till late, provided you are in the right place. You can call it hypocrisy, the fact is that girls with short dressing will not be annoyed in bars, clubs and other "identified" places while they can get into trouble in a shopping mall or supermarket.

I think there are some basic differences between these locations. Unless you are badly intoxicated you should know exactly why you are choosing to go to a supermarket or a night club. As long as big signs are shown at malls and not in clubs there's nothing much to say...


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