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Desertia 27th Jul 2009 09:41

More consultants?
 
It beggars belief that yes ANOTHER CEO can come in, call in a shedload of "consultants" who cost the company a fortune, and then produce a report that may nor may not provide a solution depending on who the consultants talk to and how much they are pressured into doctoring the answers.

As the old saying goes, a consultant is someone who comes into your company, looks at your watch and tells you what time it is.

Really, how long is it going to be before the new boy has filled all the top jobs with his Royal Jordanian trusties, and GF have still not passed GO, still not collected 200 new aircraft, etc.?

No wonder Bahrain is stuck in a rut.

Miles Gustaph 27th Jul 2009 09:58

...the trick with consultants is to listen to what they have to say and then do what they propose, which is again normally agreed with the Senior Management.

There are many cases where a company uses consultants as an excuse for their own actions or as a rear-covering-excercise.

Gulf Air have staff who have good ideas about the company but as with the consultants the senior management doesn't listen to them... will a new CEO actually be able to change the culture at that level?

I guess were about to find out, but how many chances does Gulf Air have left?

uglyraedII 27th Jul 2009 10:37

I just hope that they dont make the Air canada their consultant. I did some research and i found out that he converted he airline into some kind of low cost carrier which servers meal only on international flights! they took out the entertainment systems from the 330.It was done way before the economic crisis! I have flown wih aircanada and it makes GF look like emirates .

thegypsy 27th Jul 2009 10:43

ugly

you sound very much like bound_for dubai a few years back who turned out to be some schoolboy in Canada.

Yet you ended up in Jeddah instead of Dubai which does not surprise me.Got lost? On second thoughts get lost:D

samjetblaster 27th Jul 2009 11:25

Ban useless and underage twats from this site!
 
As the Director posted, UGLY R get lost! U seem to have nothing else to do as it's the school holidays than to post your silly and boring remarks on this site. I thought you had to be a minimum of 18 to be here and write proper English so that others can understand! So until then take a hike!

obsidian 27th Jul 2009 11:41

i dont know where u guys get your info,no consultant teams are coming! the new ceo is bringing his own team which consists of 4 vps which according to what i heard is, thats all he requires to run the company instead of our 100vps! havin said that an overpaid qualified person is not a problem,but being over paid and underqualified is! any sucessful airline or bank,etc doesnt pay there ceo peanuts..:E
uglyraed your english is embarassing ,please enroll in st.chris its a good english school!:ugh:

WELCO 27th Jul 2009 12:11


the new ceo is bringing his own team which consists of 4 vps which according to what i heard is, thats all he requires to run the company instead of our 100vps!

I've heard the same, but at this stage you can never be sure that this will actually happen. I would say that if the new guy could really succeed bringing his fellowmen, and I hope he could, this would send a strong message to the "old screws"!

uglyraedII 27th Jul 2009 12:53

what i meant about Saudi airlines is...see the see the planes are always full! They should make millions in hajj and Ramadan! but where is the money going????? Saudi airline carries countless pax every year! Most people would expect the airline make orders like 340-600 and 777-300ER ! But the airline isnt doing much.No matter how may plane the airline would have,The number of pax flying the airline would never fall!
I did my research!
I have my ways to gain excess here:oh:
Dont worry im not that Canadian school boy..Im a bahraini school boy living in jeddah:ok:
By the way i love your come backs! when the "feud" started it was like i was arguing with a bunch of 2 year old girls( which is 3 for boys :O)I hope you studied biology back in school.

obsidian 27th Jul 2009 13:21

anybody but the old useless screws! bunch of ignorant fools.:E

Miles Gustaph 27th Jul 2009 13:30

Seriously if we have to put up with the kid for another 8 weeks can we help him sort his grammar and spelling out, now I admit mine isn't great but I do try, and when prompted will make the correction but for goodness sake this is really poor!

I got one of the Indian clerks at work to correct Ugly's work - corrections in red:

What I meant about Saudi airlines is...see the see the planes are always full! They should make millions in Hajj and Ramadan! But where is the money going????? Saudi airlines carries countless pax every year! Most people would expect the airline to make orders for aircraft like the 340-600 and 777-300ER ! But the airline isn’t doing much.[space] No matter how may planes the airline would will have,[space] the number of pax flying the airline would never fall!
I did my research!
I have my ways to gain excess here
Don’t worry I’m not that Canadian school boy..I’m a Bahraini schoolboy living in Jeddah.
By the way I love your come backs! When the "feud" started it was like I was arguing with a bunch of 2 year old girls [space](which is 3 for boys)[space] I hope you studied biology back in school.

obsidian 27th Jul 2009 13:39

:Eugly raed please go back to your village and tend to the goats! trust me u wont get bored,u ll be in the company of animals with a higher iq than u:}:E

behramjee 27th Jul 2009 17:45


I did some research and i found out that he converted he airline into some kind of low cost carrier which servers meal only on international flights! they took out the entertainment systems from the 330.It was done way before the economic crisis! I have flown wih aircanada and it makes GF look like emirates
That is not correct any more as all of AC's A 333's have got the latest in-flight product in both economy and business class. They were originally going to sell off these aircraft and concentrate on having a long haul fleet based solely on Boeing planes but luckily that plan fell flat and they have decided to keep the A 333s with them for another 3-4 years until the B 787s arrive.


what i meant about Saudi airlines is...see the see the planes are always full!
Saudia flights to Europe, BKK, HKG, within the GCC and London Heathrow are not at all full year round in both directions...let alone even 75% full! They are full only to Kano, CAI, Pakistan, DAC, India, MNL and JKT. In fact, SV officials have officially disclosed to the media that their B 772s are way too big for all of their EU flights except for LON and that the ideal aircraft would have been an A 332!

Recently, SV has ordered 8 A 333s + 12 B 789s which will be used to replace the oldest B 772As and B 741s and B 743s.

Lastly, SV has a new J class in-flight product available currently only on their B 772ER fleet. It looks exactly like GF's A 332 J class product.

Miles Gustaph 27th Jul 2009 18:55

Why do I need animals when I have you guys!
It is true i have/make spelling mistakes even in school. [space] However, grammar mistakes only occur on forums like these which needs no proper grammar.
Wow you guys take me seriously it’s a kind of funny what you did there give it to the Indian guy LOL funny.

“However, grammar mistakes only occur on forums like these which needs no proper grammar.” Really?
Netiquette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
“…some Usenet guidelines call for use of unabbreviated English while users of online chat protocols like IRC and instant messaging protocols like SMS often encourage just the opposite, bolstering use of SMS language.”

“i have spelling mistakes even in school” you can get help for that… Dyslexia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
”Dyslexia is a learning disability that makes itself manifest primarily as a difficulty with reading and spelling. It is separate and distinct from reading difficulties resulting from other causes, such as a neurological deficiency with vision or hearing, or from poor or inadequate reading instruction.”

Rudeness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
“Rudeness (also called impudence or effrontery) is the disrespect and failure to behave within the context of a society or a group of people's social laws or etiquette. These laws have already unspokenly been established as the essential boundaries of normally accepted behaviour. To be unable or unwilling to align one's behaviour with these laws known to the general population of what is socially acceptable is to be rude.”

uglyraedII 27th Jul 2009 20:33

first of all i know what Dyslexia is.I have 3 words for you Get A Life.seriously its hard to be the center of attention! the forums is something like about me weird

TAF Oscar 28th Jul 2009 08:02

Your clerk missed the funniest one: "gain excess"... presumably he meant "gain access"... then again, he was talking about Saudi!

Duh 28th Jul 2009 11:21

I think you Gulf Air guys are being taken for a ride. This Ugly punk is a line pilot first officer, maybe even a captain at Gulf Air.

mutt 28th Jul 2009 16:45


Most people would expect the airline make orders like 340-600 and 777-300ER
Why? For what routes? Whats wrong with the A332 and the A320? Not to mention the 787's, or even the 747-8?

Why did they need the A340-600 or 777ER? Explain?

Mutt

boiler 28th Jul 2009 17:33

For a guy who does his "research", he sure knows about the history and operational performance of the 346 :mad:

Schibulsky 28th Jul 2009 18:23

This message is hidden because uglyraedII is on your ignore list.
 
problem solved:ok:

mutt 28th Jul 2009 18:39


You dont know how many people travel in that airline! millions!
Actually i know EXACTLY how many people travel in the airline, now back to my question, why the A340-600 and/or B773?

Explain yourself!


I guess the management there is even worst than GF
Ha ha ha, maybe the management have something that you dont..... INFORMATION...

Have a good day :)

Mutt


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