Confirm/affirm Cancer Spreading
 

Anybody noticed the confirm/afirm Cancer of Indian radio creeping into the M/E recently............Indecisive,insecure,irresponsible it may be, just wish they would keep it "over there".

:=:=

At least they don't usually include that pretentious ***ing "THE" before their callsign, a truly cringeworthy affectation apparently beloved by all too many among the ranks of India's former colonial overlords.

what's it going to be next..."souls on boardthrough security"??

Just say 'Roger' at the beginning of every transmission and if you are feeling particularly enthusiastic, add a 'Roger' at the end too.

radio work
 

Don't forget" WILCO",

"sir" in every transmission. (pet hate)

charlie charlie

... "happy landings" (!) (With obligatory head wobble.)

"Rog..", and using 'for' and 'to' in the middle of level change instructions

Mangalore this XYZ

XYZ this Mangalore

XYZ maintaining level 340 squark 1234 estimate BBL 01:23

XYZ confirm maintaining level 340

Confirmed XYZ

Raj, confirm squark 1234

Confirmed XYZ

Raj, what is your estimate BBL?

Estimate BBL 01:23 XYZ

Raj, at BBL contact Mumbai on 123.45, happy landings

Try that on new years eve and throw 2.3 million Happy New Years!

Namaskar, happy landings, happy new year

halas

WHat about when they say Good luck....
 

What about when they say good luck... Do they know something I/WE don't :confused:..... lol....



Turbo

Oh halas, you have truly been there... :ok:

Ah, the high and mighty....:yuk:

The proper response to a "confirm" question is either "Affirm" or "Negative", not "Confirmed".

In very dodgy ATC environments like the sub-continent, it is very hard to tell the difference between "Confirmed" and "Confirm".

Generally speaking Radio in M/E(not only indian..) is sometime far away from the standard Phraseology..!
Some people unfortunatly has never learn the basic:

-THINK BEFORE you transmit!(to aviod blank,eeuuh...and blocking the frequency for ages..)
-LISTEN BEFORE you transmit !(you are not the only one on frequency!)
-BE CONCISE when you transmit,it's an ATC frequency not a Chatting space.
-CALL SIGN has to be mentioned in any transmission!(at the beginning when it's a request.., at the end when it's a read back of a clearance!)
-IN SHA ALLAH is not part of the international standard phraseology;
"Qatar XYZ Damascus confirm your registrtion.."
"Qatar XYZ ,registration A7-XYZ,IN SHA ALLAH!"
The best i have ever heard!:uhoh:
Safe flight.:ok:

Mate, have you been to Italian airspace...??? "Brindisiiiiii, eeeeeh, buongiornooooo, Alitaliaaaaaaa eeeeeh 506 /digits in italian/" or maybe in France they stick to the proper phrases... Just laugh and switch over to the next sector. :E

Well, at least they don't require Divine intervention to receive an airways or landing clearance. Could be worse and talk like IBs countrymen.."OooKaay, understaaand cleared three farve ooh, vacatin' naarn point two.:yuk:

and where does these " I do confirm...." phrase come from...???:ugh::ugh::ugh:

Ah yes "charlie charlie" ....

If my memory during the days of being a
Radio operator serves me well, it was used when transmitting morse on HF as an abbreviation for "confirmed". We'd transmit -.-. (C) twice - ie. two C's rather than keying the full word. How the hell it made it into aircraft radio telephony is amusing, especially in that I doubt many that say it actually know it's origin!

Charlie
 

Charlie comes from the International Flag signal - viz Code Charlie. When the the code pennant "Charlie" was hoisted two blocks at the yardarm it signified understanding the signal hoisted on another ship.
Our cousins in the New World naval forces loved to show off their maritime tradition by replying "Charlie" on voice for an affirmative. Likewise in the mess, when someone ripped in, they would shout Code Golf, meaning "Gas alert".
Somehow maritime traditions from the middle of the last century have crossed over the last fifty years into aviation.

BTW, It may actually be correct and proper to reply :Charlie" when radio propagation conditions are poor.